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Using my credit card for cash advances - will IRS/bank flag me for money laundering?

So I've been doing this thing where I use my credit card at certain stores that let me get cash back at checkout. Basically, I'll go to a place like CVS, buy something small, and select the cash back option at checkout. This way I can get physical cash using my credit card instead of just my debit card. I've been doing this pretty regularly, probably 2-3 times a week, usually getting about $100-150 each time. It's just more convenient for me to have cash on hand, and I pay off my credit card in full every month anyway. But recently a friend mentioned that this might look suspicious to my bank or even the IRS - like I'm trying to launder money or something? I'm not doing anything illegal, just getting cash in a way that works for me. The total is maybe $1200-1500 per month in cash this way. Could this actually cause problems? Will the bank or IRS think I'm doing something shady? Should I stop doing this or is it perfectly fine as long as I'm reporting all my income properly on taxes?

This isn't actually money laundering, but I can see why your friend raised concerns. What you're describing is actually a cash advance from your credit card, and there are a few things you should know. First, most credit cards charge much higher interest rates for cash advances than regular purchases - often starting immediately with no grace period. Check your statement carefully because you might be paying significant fees without realizing it. Those small $100-150 withdrawals can add up quickly with fees. As for the IRS, they generally don't monitor or care about this activity since you're just accessing your own credit line. The bank, however, might flag unusual patterns of cash advances, especially if they're frequent and at odd locations. Banks are required to file Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) for potential money laundering, but typically for much larger amounts or truly suspicious behavior. Real money laundering involves concealing the origins of illegally obtained money, which isn't what you're doing. You're just accessing cash through your credit card, albeit in an unconventional way.

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Wait, are you sure the store cash back counts as a cash advance? I thought cash advances were only when you get money from an ATM using your credit card or those "convenience checks" they send in the mail. Does the store actually code it differently than a regular purchase?

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Yes, I'm quite certain. When you get cash back with a credit card purchase, the system typically processes it as two separate transactions internally - the purchase itself and then a cash advance for the cash back portion. Check your statement carefully and you'll likely see it listed separately with different terms. The key difference is that cash advances usually start accruing interest immediately with no grace period, unlike regular purchases where you typically have at least 21 days to pay before interest kicks in. Also, many cards charge a cash advance fee of 3-5% of the amount. So your $150 cash advance might actually cost you $157.50 plus immediate interest at rates often higher than regular purchases.

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I work in banking (not giving tax or legal advice) and wanted to add some context here. What might trigger concern isn't necessarily getting cash back occasionally, but patterns that look like "structuring" - deliberately breaking up transactions to avoid the $10,000 reporting threshold. Your $100-150 cash advances a few times a week wouldn't trigger Currency Transaction Reports (CTRs) which are for transactions over $10,000. But unusual patterns of cash transactions might prompt a bank to file a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) if they can't determine a legitimate purpose. The thing is, you'll never know if a SAR was filed - banks are prohibited from telling customers. The bigger issue is honestly the fees. Cash advances typically come with: 1. A transaction fee (often 3-5%) 2. A higher interest rate than purchases 3. Interest that starts accruing immediately with no grace period

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Thanks for the banking perspective. I had no idea about the potential for a SAR being filed without me knowing. That's a bit unnerving. I just checked my last statement and you're right about the fees - each cash back transaction shows up as a cash advance with a 4% fee and a 24.99% interest rate (vs 17.99% for regular purchases). I've probably paid hundreds in fees without realizing it. Would it make any difference if I only did this occasionally rather than 2-3 times a week? Or should I just stop completely and use an ATM with my debit card instead?

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Occasional use would certainly be less likely to trigger any monitoring concerns. Random, infrequent cash advances for varying amounts won't create a pattern that looks suspicious. From a monitoring perspective, predictable, frequent transactions sometimes look more concerning than occasional ones. From a purely financial standpoint, you should definitely stop using credit card cash advances regardless of frequency. The fees and immediate interest make this one of the most expensive ways to access cash. Using your debit card at an ATM is much more cost-effective, even with ATM fees. Another option would be to get cash back with debit purchases which usually has no fee at all. Some banks also offer cash withdrawal at their branches without fees if you have an account with them.

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Has anyone actually calculated what this cash back approach is costing? I did this for a while until I realized how expensive it was. Let's break it down: If you're getting $1,200/month via cash advances with a 4% fee and 24.99% interest, and you pay your bill 15 days after the advance (on average): - $1,200 × 4% fee = $48/month in fees - $1,200 × 24.99% × (15/365) ≈ $12.30 in interest - Total: about $60/month or $720/year just for the convenience That's WAY more expensive than just using an ATM, even with fees!

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I never thought about calculating it like that. That's crazy expensive for accessing your own money! My credit union rebates ATM fees up to $15/month, which would be a much better option for OP.

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who made this same mistake. I was doing exactly what you're describing - getting cash back on credit card purchases regularly without realizing the true cost. The real wake-up call came when I realized I was essentially paying $700+ per year just for the "convenience" of getting cash this way. That's money that could have gone toward paying down debt, savings, or literally anything else more productive. Beyond the financial aspect, I also learned that banks have algorithms that flag unusual patterns of cash transactions. Even though what you're doing isn't illegal, it can potentially affect your relationship with your bank if they start viewing your account as higher risk. My advice: switch to using your debit card at ATMs or getting cash back with debit purchases at stores. Most grocery stores, pharmacies, and gas stations offer cash back with debit at no fee. If you need larger amounts of cash regularly, consider opening an account with a credit union that reimburses ATM fees - many offer this benefit and it's still way cheaper than credit card cash advances. The peace of mind of not having to worry about suspicious transaction patterns plus saving hundreds per year in fees makes it a no-brainer decision.

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