Understanding Meals vs Entertainment Deductions for Tax Purposes
Hey everyone, I need some clarification about the distinction between meals and entertainment for tax purposes. I'm running a small consulting business and often take clients out for meals and events. I know the rules changed a while back, and I'm confused about what I can actually deduct now. Should I be categorizing business lunches separately from things like sporting events or concerts when tracking expenses? I heard something about entertainment being completely non-deductible but meals still being partially deductible at 50%? Also, if I take a client to dinner and we discuss business the whole time, is that considered a meal or entertainment? I've been tracking everything together, but my accountant mentioned I should be more careful with the distinctions. Any guidance would be appreciated!
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Kevin Bell
The distinction between meals and entertainment is definitely important for tax purposes! Business meals are generally 50% deductible if they involve discussions with clients, customers, or business contacts. This includes restaurant meals, coffee meetings, etc. Keep detailed records of who attended, business purpose, and the date. Entertainment expenses (sporting events, concerts, theater tickets, etc.) are generally no longer deductible since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act changes. Even if you discuss business during these events, they fall under the entertainment category. Here's where it gets tricky: if you have food at an entertainment event, that food might be separately deductible as a business meal if properly documented and if business is discussed. But the entertainment portion remains non-deductible. The key is separate tracking - you absolutely should categorize business meals separately from entertainment expenses in your books.
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Savannah Glover
•Thanks for explaining! Quick question - what about company holiday parties or team lunches where we're not meeting with clients but it's for internal staff? Are those still 50% deductible or do they fall under a different category?
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Kevin Bell
•Employee events like holiday parties and team lunches are actually 100% deductible as long as they're for the benefit of all employees and aren't lavish or extravagant. These fall under "de minimis fringe benefits" rather than business meal deductions. For team-building activities that might seem like entertainment (taking staff to a baseball game, for example), the rules get more complex. The activity itself likely remains non-deductible as entertainment, but any food and beverages provided separately might be 100% deductible if they're for all employees and meet other requirements.
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Felix Grigori
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Max Reyes
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Adrian Connor
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Max Reyes
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Aisha Jackson
Don't forget about the temporary 100% business meal deduction for 2021 and 2022 that was part of the COVID relief. That's gone now, but I've seen people still trying to deduct 100% of restaurant meals on their taxes. Back to 50% for 2023 tax year and forward!
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Ella Cofer
•Wait, I didn't know about that temporary 100% thing! I probably underclaimed deductions for 2021-2022. Can I still amend those returns? And you're absolutely sure it's back to 50% now?
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Aisha Jackson
•Yes, you can absolutely still amend your 2021 and 2022 returns! You generally have 3 years from the original filing deadline to submit an amended return, so you have plenty of time. It might be worth it if you had significant business meal expenses during those years. And yes, it's definitely back to 50% for 2023 and forward. The 100% deduction was specifically designed as temporary relief for the restaurant industry during COVID and expired at the end of 2022. No extensions were granted for this provision.
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Ryder Everingham
Has anyone here successfully deducted meals where alcohol was served? My accountant is super conservative and says alcohol makes the entire meal non-deductible, but I've heard different things from other business owners.
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Kevin Bell
•Your accountant is being overly cautious. Alcohol served with a business meal is treated the same as the food - it's 50% deductible as part of the meal. The IRS doesn't require you to separate food from alcohol on your receipts. However, there are some exceptions. If the alcohol costs are "lavish or extravagant," they might be disallowed. So buying a $20 bottle of wine with dinner is fine, but a $500 bottle might raise eyebrows. Also, if you're buying rounds at a bar without food, that's harder to justify as a business meal rather than entertainment.
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Carmen Ortiz
Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been dealing with these deduction changes for a few years now, I'd add one important point: documentation is absolutely critical for meal deductions. The IRS requires you to document the business purpose, who attended, and the business relationship of the attendees. I keep a simple log with each receipt that includes: date, attendees, business purpose discussed, and amount. Takes 30 seconds per meal but could save you thousands if audited. Also, be careful with "business meals" that are really just convenience. Grabbing lunch alone while working doesn't count as a business meal - you need that business discussion element with clients, prospects, or business contacts. The meal has to be directly related to your business activities, not just eaten during business hours. One more tip: if you're traveling for business, meals while traveling are still 50% deductible even if you're eating alone, as long as the travel itself is for business purposes. This is different from regular business meals which require the business discussion component.
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Rebecca Johnston
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I've been really sloppy with my documentation and just realized I might be missing out on legitimate deductions or setting myself up for problems if audited. Quick question about the travel meals - does this apply to day trips too? Like if I drive to a client meeting in another city and grab lunch there, is that 50% deductible even though I'm not staying overnight? And do I need to document the business purpose for travel meals the same way as regular business meals with clients? I'm definitely going to start keeping better records going forward. Better safe than sorry!
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Giovanni Marino
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm a freelance graphic designer who regularly meets clients for coffee and lunch meetings, and I've been making some mistakes with my deductions. One thing I'm still unclear on: what about meals during networking events? I attend monthly chamber of commerce meetings that include lunch, and I often meet potential clients there. The lunch is included in the registration fee - should I be tracking that separately as a 50% deductible business meal, or is it part of the overall networking event cost? Also, for those using expense tracking apps or services, do you find they handle mixed situations well? Like when you take a client to lunch (50% deductible meal) but also give them promotional materials or small gifts during the meeting - I assume those would be tracked differently for tax purposes? Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here. It's so much more helpful than trying to decode IRS publications on my own!
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