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Natasha Orlova

Took out a 401k loan last year but Empower says no 1099 form needed?

So I borrowed some money from my 401k in 2024, around $12,000 to handle some unexpected home repairs. Nothing too crazy, but it helped me avoid putting it all on credit cards with those insane interest rates. When I started doing my taxes this weekend, TurboTax kept asking me to revisit my 1099-R questions. I was expecting to get a 1099 form from Empower (my 401k administrator) for the loan, but when I called them, they said I don't need one for a 401k loan as long as I'm making the payments according to schedule. This seems weird to me because TurboTax keeps flagging it. Do I really not need to report a 401k loan on my taxes? Is Empower correct that I don't get a 1099 for it? I'm confused because TurboTax is acting like something's missing. Anyone deal with this before? I don't want to mess up my taxes but also don't want to report something unnecessarily.

You're getting confused between a 401k loan and a 401k withdrawal/distribution. Empower is correct - you don't receive a 1099-R for a 401k loan as long as you're repaying it according to the terms. A 401k loan is essentially borrowing your own money with a promise to pay it back. Since it's not considered a taxable distribution, there's no 1099-R generated. It's treated as a loan arrangement between you and your 401k plan. The TurboTax prompt you're seeing is likely a standard question asking about any retirement distributions you might have received. Since a loan isn't a distribution, you can simply indicate you didn't receive a 1099-R for this purpose. The software is probably just checking to make sure you haven't overlooked any forms.

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But what happens if you don't pay the loan back? Doesn't it then become a distribution and you'd owe taxes? Also does taking a loan affect how much you can contribute that year?

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If you fail to repay the loan according to the terms, the outstanding balance would be treated as a distribution at that point. Then yes, it would become taxable and you'd receive a 1099-R for the amount not repaid, plus you'd likely face the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½. Taking a loan doesn't affect your annual contribution limits. You can still contribute up to the maximum allowed amount ($23,000 for 2025, plus an additional $7,500 if you're 50 or older). However, some plans might restrict new contributions until the loan is repaid, but that's plan-specific rather than an IRS rule.

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You might want to double-check if you received any OTHER distributions from your retirement accounts. Sometimes people take a loan AND a hardship withdrawal in the same year and confuse the two. A withdrawal would generate a 1099-R. Also, did you roll over any accounts or change jobs? Those transactions can trigger 1099-R forms even if they aren't taxable events.

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I did actually change jobs in November but my 401k stayed with Empower. I didn't roll anything over - just kept it where it was. Would that still trigger a 1099-R?

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No, if you left your 401k with Empower and didn't take any distributions, there shouldn't be a 1099-R generated just from changing jobs. A 1099-R is only issued when money actually leaves the retirement system or moves between different types of accounts (like rolling from a 401k to an IRA). The TurboTax alert is likely just a standard checkpoint to make sure you've entered all your forms. Since you've confirmed with Empower that no 1099-R was issued for your loan, you can confidently proceed with your tax return without it.

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I'm a little confused... I took out a 401k loan in 2023 and I swear I got some kind of form for my taxes?? But maybe I'm mixing it up with somethin else?

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You might have gotten a 1099-R if you didn't repay the loan according to the terms. Or maybe you took a hardship withdrawal rather than a loan? Those are different and withdrawals definitely generate a 1099-R.

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Empower is absolutely correct! You don't need a 1099-R for a 401k loan as long as you're making the required payments on schedule. A loan from your 401k isn't considered a taxable distribution - you're essentially borrowing your own money and paying it back with interest (which goes back into your account). The TurboTax prompts you're seeing are standard questions that appear for everyone to make sure they haven't missed any retirement account distributions. Since a 401k loan isn't a distribution, you can safely answer that you didn't receive a 1099-R related to this transaction. Just keep making your loan payments as agreed and you won't have any tax implications. The only time you'd get a 1099-R is if you default on the loan or fail to repay it according to the terms - then the outstanding balance would be treated as a taxable distribution.

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