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Giovanni Gallo

Tax implications when selling vehicle used partly for business deliveries

I have a weird tax situation I'm dealing with. I did some gig work on the side last year (DoorDash, InstaCart) and made about $6,500. I used my car for these deliveries for about 9 months, but then sold the vehicle before year end. On Schedule C, it's asking for the original cost of the vehicle (which we purchased in 2023) and the business portion of the sales price. We got $38,200 when we traded it in. Since I calculated that roughly 18% of the total mileage was business-related, I put down 18% of the $38,200 sale price ($6,876) as the business portion. Here's the issue - doing this somehow made my tax return jump up by over $5,000 federally and around $650 for state! This seems completely crazy to me. I feel like I'm missing something obvious or doing something wrong. Has anyone dealt with selling a vehicle used partially for business before? Any insights would be super helpful! Thanks!

This is actually a pretty common situation with gig workers. When you sell a vehicle that was used partly for business, you're essentially dealing with what's called "recapture." If you've been claiming business mileage deductions for that vehicle, the IRS considers that you've already received a tax benefit for the business portion of your vehicle's depreciation. When you sell the vehicle, they want some of that back if you sold it for more than its depreciated value. The key questions here are: 1) Did you claim the standard mileage rate for your delivery work or actual expenses? 2) How much in total vehicle deductions did you claim during the time you owned the car? Your tax increase seems unusually high for the numbers you're describing. I'd double-check if you accidentally entered something incorrectly in your tax software. The business portion of the sale should only impact the business portion of your gain on the sale, not the entire vehicle value.

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Thanks for the quick reply! I've been using the standard mileage rate (58.5 cents per mile) for all my delivery work. I drove about 7,500 miles for business purposes in 2024 before selling the car. I originally paid $41,000 for the car in 2023, then traded it in for $38,200 this year. So technically I had a loss on the overall vehicle, not a gain. Does that change things? Would I still have recapture in that scenario?

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Using the standard mileage rate does simplify things. When you use that method, the IRS considers a portion of that rate to be depreciation (about 27 cents of the 58.5 cents in 2024). Even though you had an overall loss on the vehicle, for tax purposes you still need to account for the business portion. Since you've been deducting the business use through the standard mileage rate, the IRS views it as if you've already received tax benefits for the depreciation on that portion. The way this should work is that you'd calculate the "basis" of the business portion of your vehicle by taking your original cost, multiplying by the business use percentage, and then subtracting the depreciation you effectively claimed through the standard mileage rate. Then compare that adjusted basis to the business portion of your sales price. A $5,000+ tax increase still seems excessive though. I'd recommend double-checking your entries or possibly consulting with a tax professional who can review your specific situation.

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I'm curious - how did taxr.ai handle the depreciation recapture calculation? That's the part I always find most confusing, especially with the standard mileage rate where the depreciation is kind of "hidden" within the rate.

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I tried Claimyr yesterday after seeing this thread and it actually worked! I've been trying to get through to the IRS for WEEKS about my vehicle sale situation. I was convinced this would be another waste of money, but they got me connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. The agent confirmed that I was calculating my business use percentage correctly but explained I was making a mistake with how I was handling the depreciation recapture portion. Turns out there's a specific form (Form 4797) that I should have been using in addition to Schedule C. The IRS agent walked me through the whole process and now my tax calculation makes way more sense. My tax bill went down by almost $3000 after making these corrections! For anyone struggling with this vehicle sale issue - definitely worth getting direct guidance from the IRS.

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I think part of your problem might be how you're determining the business percentage. Are you dividing business miles by total miles for the entire time you owned the car, or just for the tax year in question? You should be using the business percentage for the entire period of ownership if you're calculating a gain/loss on the sale. This might be different from the percentage you use for your annual expense deduction. Also, did you adjust your basis for any Section 179 deductions or bonus depreciation you might have taken in previous years? That can have a huge impact on how the sale is taxed.

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I calculated the 18% based just on 2024's miles, not the entire ownership period. Would that make a big difference? I've owned the car since early 2023. I didn't take any Section 179 or bonus depreciation - I've always just used the standard mileage rate since it seemed simpler. I'm starting to think that might be why the numbers seem so off.

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Yes, that could definitely be part of the issue! The correct approach would be to look at the business use percentage across the entire period you owned the vehicle (2023-2024). With the standard mileage rate, a portion of what you claimed is considered depreciation. For 2023, about 26 cents of the standard mileage rate was depreciation, and for 2024 it's about 27 cents. You'd need to calculate how much total "depreciation" you effectively claimed through the standard mileage rate over the ownership period. Then you'd need to recapture that depreciation when you sell the vehicle. Since you're using Schedule C, this typically goes on Form 4797 as mentioned by another commenter. The software should handle this, but it's possible you might have entered something in a way that's causing it to calculate incorrectly.

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Has anyone considered that the tax software might be the problem here? Sometimes when you enter vehicle sales in different tax programs, they handle it differently. I had H&R Block completely mess up my vehicle sale calculation last year and switched to TaxAct which handled it correctly. What software are you using to prepare your return?

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I'm using TurboTax. I thought it would handle this correctly since it's pretty popular, but maybe it's not asking the right questions for my situation? When I entered the vehicle sale info, it asked for the total sales price and then what percentage was for business. I didn't see any questions about my basis or depreciation specifically.

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I've had good experiences with FreeTaxUSA for these more complex situations. TurboTax sometimes oversimplifies things, which can cause problems with business asset sales. The key is that the software needs to correctly calculate your adjusted basis in the business portion of the vehicle by factoring in the depreciation you've already claimed through the standard mileage rate. Then it compares that to the business portion of your sales proceeds to determine gain/loss. You might want to try entering the same information in a different program to see if you get different results. Most offer free calculations even if they charge for filing.

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I think you might be running into a classic depreciation recapture issue, but the $5,000+ tax increase seems way too high for your situation. Here's what's likely happening: When you used the standard mileage rate for your 7,500 business miles, you effectively claimed about $2,025 in depreciation (27 cents per mile for 2024). The IRS now wants to "recapture" some of that depreciation when you sell the vehicle. However, since you had an overall loss on the vehicle ($41,000 purchase vs $38,200 sale), the recapture should be limited. The business portion of your loss would be about $504 (18% of the $2,800 total loss), but you'd still need to recapture the depreciation you claimed. A few things to double-check: 1. Make sure you're calculating business use percentage correctly across the entire ownership period, not just 2024 2. Verify that TurboTax is properly accounting for the depreciation component of your standard mileage deductions 3. Check if the software is correctly limiting recapture to the actual depreciation claimed That tax increase suggests something is being calculated incorrectly. I'd recommend running through the numbers manually or trying a different tax software to compare results before filing.

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This is really helpful! I'm new to all this tax stuff and your breakdown makes it much clearer. I had no idea about the depreciation recapture concept - that explains a lot about why my tax bill jumped so much. I think you're right that something is being calculated wrong. The $5,000+ increase just doesn't make sense for a $6,500 side gig. I'm going to try entering the same info in FreeTaxUSA like another commenter suggested to see if I get different results. One question - when you say "business use percentage across the entire ownership period," do you mean I should calculate total business miles driven since I bought the car in 2023, not just the 2024 business miles? I only started doing delivery work in 2024, so would that change the calculation?

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Since you only started delivery work in 2024, you'd calculate the business percentage based on 2024 usage only - so your 18% calculation is actually correct for this part. The key issue is likely how the software is handling the depreciation component. Here's what I think might be happening: TurboTax may be treating the entire business portion of your sale price ($6,876) as taxable income instead of properly calculating the gain/loss after adjusting for depreciation. Try this manual check: Your business basis would be 18% of $41,000 = $7,380, minus the $2,025 depreciation you claimed through mileage = $5,355 adjusted basis. Compare that to your business sale proceeds of $6,876, giving you a gain of $1,521 that should be subject to recapture - not anywhere near a $5,000 tax increase. If FreeTaxUSA gives you similar results, definitely consider getting professional help or using one of the AI tax tools mentioned earlier to analyze your specific situation. Something is definitely off with that calculation.

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I ran into this exact same issue when I sold my delivery vehicle last year! The $5,000+ tax increase definitely seems wrong - that's way too high for your situation. Here's what I learned after going through this mess: TurboTax sometimes doesn't handle partial business use vehicle sales correctly, especially when you're using the standard mileage rate. The software can get confused about how to calculate the depreciation recapture portion. Based on your numbers, your actual taxable gain should be much smaller. You had 18% business use on a vehicle that lost value overall ($41K to $38.2K), plus you only claimed about $4,387 in total mileage deductions (7,500 miles × $0.585). The depreciation component of that would be around $2,025 (7,500 × $0.27). A few things that helped me figure it out: 1. Double-check that you entered the original purchase price correctly in the business asset section 2. Make sure the software is using 2024's depreciation rate (27 cents per mile) not 2023's rate 3. Verify it's calculating business percentage correctly I ended up having to manually override some of TurboTax's calculations after consulting with a tax pro. The actual taxable amount was less than $800, not the $5,000+ the software initially calculated. Definitely get a second opinion before filing - this could save you thousands!

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