Tax implications: Should I take my 10k PTO payout as one check or split into weekly payments?
I've built up quite a bit of PTO hours at my job and it's worth around $10k total. Our payroll manager is suggesting I don't take it all as one lump sum because of higher taxes and recommended I take it as 50 hours per week until it's used up. I'm trying to figure out if there's any actual benefit to splitting it up. If I take the whole amount now before December 31st and then just file my taxes right after January 1st, wouldn't it all come out the same when I get my tax refund anyway? I'm also expecting a salary increase next year, and I'm worried that if I add this PTO payout to next year's income, I might earn too much to qualify for my current low-cost health insurance plan. One more complication - these PTO hours have actually accumulated over the last 5 years, and nobody bothered to tell me until now. I haven't filed taxes for the past 3 years (I know, I need to fix that). Since some of these hours were earned in previous years, can I somehow apply that income to my unfiled tax returns from those years, or do I have to count it all as income for this year when I receive the payment?
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Molly Hansen
The payroll manager is talking about withholding, not your actual tax liability. When you receive a large lump sum, payroll systems often withhold at a higher rate because they calculate it as if you make that amount every pay period. But you're right - when you file your tax return, it all gets reconciled based on your actual annual income. If you're concerned about health insurance subsidies, splitting the payments across December and January might actually make sense. That way, only part of the PTO payout would count toward this year's income and part would count toward next year's. Regarding the timing of when you earned the PTO - unfortunately, income is generally taxed in the year you receive it, not when you earned it. Since you haven't filed for 3 years, you should definitely get caught up on those filings, but the PTO payout will count as income in the year you actually receive the money.
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Brady Clean
•So basically withholding doesn't matter in the long run? Could OP just adjust their W-4 to compensate for the higher withholding on the lump sum? Also, wouldn't splitting it between Dec/Jan be risky if the health insurance eligibility is based on annual income?
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Molly Hansen
•Yes, withholding is just an estimate and everything gets sorted out when you file. Adjusting the W-4 is certainly an option, but with just a few weeks left in the year, there may not be enough regular paychecks to make up the difference. Splitting between December and January can be strategic if you're concerned about annual income thresholds for health insurance. If you're close to an income cliff for subsidies, keeping some of that money out of this year's income could potentially save thousands in healthcare costs. It's all about which year works better for your overall tax situation.
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Skylar Neal
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Vincent Bimbach
•Did it actually work well for PTO payout questions? I've got a similar situation with about $7k in vacation time and I'm wondering whether to take it all at once or split it up. Does the service help with figuring out the health insurance subsidy impacts too?
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Kelsey Chin
•I'm skeptical about these kinds of services. How did it actually help beyond what a basic tax calculator would tell you? Did you need to upload a bunch of personal documents?
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Skylar Neal
•It worked surprisingly well for my PTO situation. You upload your documents (I used my last paystub and prior year's tax return), and it shows side-by-side comparisons of different scenarios. It factors in how the additional income might push you into different tax brackets or affect credits. For health insurance subsidies, yes, it actually has a specific calculator for ACA subsidy cliffs and shows you exactly where the cutoffs are. That was actually the most valuable part for me because I was right on the edge of losing a significant subsidy.
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Kelsey Chin
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Norah Quay
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Leo McDonald
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Jessica Nolan
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Norah Quay
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Jessica Nolan
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Angelina Farar
Just to add my two cents as a former payroll specialist - there's another consideration with taking the PTO as a lump sum vs. spreading it out. If your company uses a supplemental wage rate for bonuses and large payouts (many do), they might withhold at a flat 22% for federal regardless of your normal withholding. This doesn't change your actual tax liability, but it does affect how much cash you get upfront vs. at refund time.
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Connor Rupert
•So what you're saying is I should consider my current cash flow needs in this decision too? Is there any way to avoid that higher withholding rate on the lump sum if I need the full amount now?
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Angelina Farar
•Exactly, it's partly a cash flow decision. If you need more money in your pocket right now, spreading out the payments might result in less withholding upfront. Technically your employer can calculate the withholding based on your normal rate instead of the flat supplemental rate, but most payroll systems default to the easier 22% method for large payments. If you absolutely need the full amount now, you could take the lump sum and then immediately adjust your W-4 to claim exempt for the rest of the year to offset the higher withholding. Just remember to switch it back in January. It's not ideal, but it's an option if cash flow is your primary concern.
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Sebastián Stevens
Don't forget about FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare)! If you're close to the Social Security wage base limit ($153,900 for 2024), splitting the payments might actually save you money. Once you hit that threshold, you stop paying the 6.2% Social Security tax for the year.
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Bethany Groves
•Good point! Does that matter for Medicare too or just Social Security? And how would OP know if they're close to the threshold?
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Ethan Anderson
As someone who's dealt with both unfiled returns and PTO payouts, I'd strongly recommend getting those back tax filings sorted out ASAP before making any decisions about the PTO timing. The IRS has different rules and potential penalties for late filing that could affect your overall tax strategy. For the PTO itself, one thing to consider is your state's tax situation too - some states have different withholding rules for lump sum payments that could impact your decision. Also, if you're planning to use any of that $10k for major purchases or debt payoff, the timing of when you actually receive the cash (after withholding) vs. when you get it back as a refund could matter for your financial planning. Given the complexity with the health insurance subsidies, unfiled returns, and potential salary increase, this might be worth a consultation with a tax professional who can run the numbers for your specific situation rather than trying to figure it all out on your own.
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Connor Murphy
•This is really solid advice. I'm in a similar situation with unfiled returns and I never thought about how state withholding might be different for lump sums. Do you know if there's a general rule about which states treat lump sum payouts differently, or is it something I'd need to research state by state? Also, when you say "tax professional," are you thinking CPA or would someone like an enrolled agent be sufficient for this kind of situation?
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Freya Andersen
•@Connor Murphy For state withholding differences, it really varies quite a bit. States like California and New York tend to have higher supplemental withholding rates up (to 13.3% and 13% respectively ,)while states like Texas and Florida don t'have state income tax at all. Some states follow federal supplemental withholding rules, others have their own flat rates for bonuses/lump sums. You d'probably need to check your specific state s'revenue department website or ask your payroll department how they handle it. As for tax professionals, either a CPA or enrolled agent would work well for this situation. Enrolled agents actually specialize specifically in tax matters and can represent you before the IRS, which might be particularly helpful given the unfiled returns. CPAs have broader training but many focus heavily on tax work too. The key is finding someone experienced with unfiled returns and complex timing situations like this - maybe ask potential candidates specifically about their experience with catching up on back filings and income timing strategies.
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Rachel Tao
I've been through something very similar with a large PTO payout and unfiled returns. Here's what I learned that might help: First, regarding the withholding vs actual tax liability - you're absolutely right that it evens out when you file. However, there's a cash flow consideration many people miss. If you take the lump sum now, you'll likely have 22% federal plus state withholding taken out immediately, but you won't see that money back until you file your return (which could be months away if you're still catching up on prior years). For the health insurance subsidies, this is actually the biggest factor in your decision. The ACA subsidy cliffs are steep - you could lose thousands in premium tax credits by going just a few hundred dollars over the income threshold. Since you mentioned expecting a salary increase next year, splitting the PTO between December and January might be worth it just to manage your annual income in each tax year. One thing I don't see mentioned yet - since you haven't filed for 3 years, you should know that the IRS stops processing refunds after 3 years. So if you had refunds coming for 2021 or earlier years, you may have lost them permanently. This makes it even more important to get caught up on those filings before worrying about optimizing this PTO payout. My suggestion: handle the unfiled returns first, then use those actual income figures to model out how the PTO timing affects your taxes and subsidies for both this year and next year.
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
•This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! The point about losing refunds after 3 years is something I definitely didn't know - that's a huge wake-up call. I'm curious though, when you say to handle the unfiled returns first, do you mean I should actually file all three years before making the PTO decision? That seems like it could take months, and my company is asking for a decision pretty soon. Also, you mentioned modeling out the ACA subsidy impacts - is there a reliable way to calculate those cliffs myself, or do most people need professional help for that kind of analysis? I'm trying to figure out if this is something I can reasonably DIY or if I really need to bite the bullet and hire someone.
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