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My vacation payout was taxed at almost 50% - much higher than my normal rate

So I just wrapped up my job at a company where I was allowed to bank unlimited vacation time that would be paid out when I left. I ended up being there for quite a while, and between a busy schedule and COVID restrictions, I managed to pile up about 480 hours (12 weeks) of unused PTO. Got the payout yesterday and checked that they calculated the right number of hours, but was shocked to see they withheld 48.5% for taxes! My normal tax withholding is only around 33%, so I'm seriously confused about why they took so much more. Is this because the company is treating this lump sum as if it's my regular salary projected for the entire year? If that's what's happening, I'm hoping I can get that extra money back when I file my taxes next year. Just want to make sure there's nothing sketchy going on with this massive withholding.

This is actually completely normal for large lump sum payments like vacation payouts. What you're seeing is called "supplemental wage withholding," and the IRS has special withholding rates for these types of payments. For supplemental wages (bonuses, vacation payouts, etc.) under $1 million, employers typically withhold a flat 22% for federal taxes. However, if they combine it with your regular paycheck, they might use the "aggregate method" which can result in much higher withholding percentages because the system thinks you suddenly got a massive pay increase. The good news is this is just withholding, not your actual tax rate. When you file your taxes, this money will be treated as regular income at your normal tax brackets. So yes, you should receive the excess withholding back as part of your tax refund when you file.

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Thanks for explaining! So does this mean my employer did the withholding correctly, or did they withhold too much? And is there any way to ask for some of that money back now instead of waiting until tax time?

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Your employer likely followed proper procedures. When they use the aggregate method, the system calculates withholding as if you'll receive that large amount every pay period for the entire year, which pushes the withholding into much higher brackets temporarily. Unfortunately, there's no way to get that money back from your employer or the IRS until you file your tax return. The withholding system doesn't have a mechanism for immediate adjustments after payments are made. Your best option is to adjust your W-4 withholding at your new job if you're concerned about cash flow, which could help offset this by reducing withholding on your new paychecks.

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After dealing with similar frustrations around tax issues, I started using https://taxr.ai to make sense of all the tax implications for my situation. It analyzes pay stubs and tax documents to explain exactly what's going on and what you can expect when filing. For lump sum vacation payouts like yours, it would break down the withholding percentages and explain why they're higher than normal wages. It also estimates how much you might get back when you file your taxes based on your overall situation. Saved me a ton of confusion when I left my last job with a similar vacation payout situation.

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Is this service able to help if I've already received the payment? I'm in the same boat with a severance package that got taxed at almost 45% and I'm trying to figure out if that's correct.

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Sounds interesting but how is this different from just talking to an accountant? I've found most online tax tools don't handle unusual situations very well.

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Yes, it works great for analyzing payments you've already received. You just upload your pay stub and it breaks down why the withholding was calculated that way and what you can expect come tax time. The difference from an accountant is convenience and cost. You get immediate answers without scheduling an appointment or paying hourly rates. It's specifically designed for unusual scenarios like lump sum payments, equity compensation, and multiple income sources that standard tax software struggles with. The analysis is much more thorough than what you'd get from basic tax software.

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Just wanted to update - I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. It confirmed that my severance package withholding (45%) was using the aggregate method, just like the vacation payout discussed here. The analysis showed I should get about $3,200 back at tax time based on my overall tax situation. The tool also suggested adjusting my W-4 at my new job to help with cash flow until then. Definitely cleared up my confusion about why the withholding was so high.

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I take back what I said about Claimyr. I decided to try it after my third attempt waiting on hold with the IRS for over an hour about my supplemental withholding issue. Got a call back in about 45 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent confirmed that the high withholding rate on my lump sum payment was normal and would be reconciled when I file my taxes. Saved me from wasting another afternoon on hold just to get a simple answer.

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One thing to consider is how this might affect your cash flow until you file taxes. If you're starting a new job, you could adjust your W-4 to have less tax withheld from your regular paychecks to offset the over-withholding from your vacation payout. The new W-4 doesn't have allowances anymore, but you can put an additional amount on line 4(c) that you want withheld, or you can put an amount on line 4(b) that will reduce your withholding. Just be careful not to underwithhold too much or you might face penalties.

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That's really helpful, thanks! Do you know roughly how I should calculate how much to adjust on my W-4? I don't want to end up owing a bunch next year.

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I'd start by estimating how much extra was withheld from your vacation payout. Take the difference between your normal 33% withholding rate and the 48.5% they actually withheld, then multiply that by the total vacation payout. That gives you the "extra" withholding amount. Then divide that extra amount by the number of pay periods remaining in the year at your new job. That's roughly how much less you could have withheld per paycheck. Put that amount on line 4(b) of your W-4 (deductions). If you want to be more conservative, use a smaller amount to avoid potential underwithholding issues.

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Has anyone had success getting their employer to use the flat 22% supplemental wage withholding method instead of the aggregate method? I'm about to leave my job with a big vacation payout too and would rather not have half of it withheld.

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At my last company, they were willing to process vacation payouts as separate checks using the 22% flat rate if you specifically requested it. Might be worth asking your HR or payroll department before you leave.

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This is a great thread - I went through something similar last year with a bonus payout. One additional tip that helped me: if you're concerned about the cash flow impact until tax season, you can also check if your state has different withholding rules. Some states have lower supplemental wage withholding rates than others, so the "48.5%" you're seeing might include both federal and state withholding combined. In my case, federal was the standard 22% supplemental rate, but my state added another 6.85%, plus FICA taxes brought the total to around 35%. It's worth breaking down your pay stub to see exactly where all that withholding is going - you might find the federal portion is actually closer to normal and it's state/local taxes pushing it so high.

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I experienced something very similar when I left my previous job with a large vacation payout. The key thing to understand is that this high withholding rate doesn't mean you'll actually owe that much in taxes - it's just the system being overly cautious with lump sum payments. What helped me was keeping detailed records of the withholding breakdown. Make sure you save that pay stub because you'll need it when filing taxes. The IRS will treat this vacation payout as regular income spread across the year you earned it, not as if you made that amount every pay period. Also, if you're starting a new job soon, mention this situation to your new employer's HR when filling out your W-4. They might be able to help you adjust your withholding to account for the over-withholding from your vacation payout, which can help with cash flow until you get your refund.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious - when you mention keeping detailed records of the withholding breakdown, what specific information should I be looking for on the pay stub? I want to make sure I'm documenting everything correctly for when I file my taxes next year. Also, did you end up getting most of that over-withheld amount back as a refund?

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Great question! On your pay stub, you'll want to document the federal income tax withheld, state income tax (if applicable), Social Security, Medicare, and any other deductions. The key is to separate the federal withholding from everything else so you can see exactly how much extra federal tax was taken. Yes, I got back about 85% of the over-withheld amount as a refund. The remaining 15% was legitimate tax I owed based on my actual tax bracket for that income level. The vacation payout pushed me into a slightly higher bracket for that portion of income, but nowhere near the 48% they withheld. One tip: if you use tax software next year, make sure it properly categorizes the vacation payout as regular wages, not supplemental income, when calculating your final tax liability. Some software gets confused by the high withholding rate and tries to treat it as bonus income with different tax implications.

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I just went through this exact situation a few months ago! Had about 320 hours of vacation time paid out when I left my company, and they withheld 46% which was way higher than my normal 28% withholding rate. What I learned is that your employer has two options for withholding on supplemental wages like vacation payouts: they can either use the flat 22% federal rate (plus state taxes and FICA) if they issue it as a separate payment, or they can use the "aggregate method" if they combine it with your regular paycheck. The aggregate method treats the lump sum as if you'll earn that amount every pay period, which pushes you into much higher tax brackets temporarily. The frustrating part is waiting until tax time to get the excess back, but I did get about $2,800 refunded when I filed. One thing that helped was adjusting my W-4 at my new job to reduce withholding slightly, which improved my cash flow while waiting for tax season. Just make sure not to adjust it too much or you could end up owing next year. Keep that pay stub - you'll definitely need it when filing your taxes!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm in a similar situation with a large vacation payout coming up. When you adjusted your W-4 at your new job, did you use line 4(b) to reduce withholding or did you work with HR to figure out the right adjustment? I'm nervous about getting the calculation wrong and ending up owing money next year. Also, how long did it take to actually receive your refund once you filed?

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I used line 4(b) to reduce withholding, but I worked with my new company's HR to make sure I calculated it correctly. They were really helpful - I showed them my vacation payout stub and explained the over-withholding situation, and they helped me figure out a conservative adjustment amount that wouldn't risk underwithholding. For the calculation, I took the excess withholding amount (about $2,800 in my case) and divided it by the remaining pay periods in the year, then reduced that amount by about 20% to be safe. So instead of reducing withholding by the full calculated amount, I only reduced it by 80% of that to avoid any surprises. As for the refund timing - I filed in early February and received my refund via direct deposit in about 3 weeks. The IRS processed it pretty quickly since it was straightforward over-withholding, not anything complicated. Just make sure to file electronically and choose direct deposit for the fastest processing.

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This happened to me too when I left my job with 6 weeks of banked vacation time. The 48.5% withholding you're seeing is likely the result of your employer using the "aggregate method" - basically their payroll system calculated taxes as if you were going to earn that vacation payout amount every single pay period for the rest of the year, which temporarily pushes you into the highest tax brackets. The good news is this is just withholding, not your actual tax liability. When you file your return next year, this vacation payout will be taxed at your regular marginal tax rates based on your total annual income. You should definitely get a substantial refund of that over-withheld amount. I'd recommend keeping that pay stub in a safe place - you'll need those withholding details when you file. Also, if you're starting a new job, consider mentioning this situation to HR when you fill out your W-4. They might be able to help you reduce your regular withholding slightly to improve your cash flow until you get that refund back.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I was getting really worried that somehow I was going to owe all that money at tax time. The aggregate method explanation makes so much sense - no wonder the withholding was so crazy high. I definitely plan to keep that pay stub safe and will talk to HR at my new job about adjusting my W-4. Thanks for the reassurance that this is normal and that I should get most of it back as a refund!

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago when I left my previous job with nearly 400 hours of banked PTO. The 48.5% withholding rate you're seeing is completely normal - it's called the "aggregate method" and it happens when employers combine your vacation payout with regular pay. What's happening is their payroll system is calculating withholding as if you'll earn that lump sum amount every pay period for the entire year, which artificially pushes you into the highest tax brackets. It's just a quirk of how payroll systems handle large one-time payments. The important thing to remember is that this is withholding, not your actual tax obligation. When you file next year, this vacation money will be taxed at your normal marginal rates based on your total annual income. I ended up getting back about $3,400 of the $4,200 they over-withheld from my vacation payout. My advice: keep that pay stub in a very safe place (scan it and save digital copies), and consider adjusting your W-4 at your new job to reduce regular withholding slightly. This can help with cash flow until you get your refund. Just don't adjust it too aggressively - I reduced mine by about 75% of what I calculated to be safe.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing! Getting back $3,400 out of $4,200 over-withheld gives me hope that I'll see most of my money again too. I'm definitely going to follow your advice about keeping multiple copies of that pay stub - I'll scan it and store it in a few different places so I don't lose track of those withholding details. The tip about only adjusting my W-4 by 75% of the calculated amount sounds smart too. I'd rather be conservative and get a slightly bigger refund than risk owing money next April. Thanks for sharing the specific numbers from your experience - it really helps put this whole situation in perspective!

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I had a similar experience when I left my last job with a large vacation payout! The 48.5% withholding rate you're seeing is definitely the result of the "aggregate method" - your employer's payroll system treated that lump sum as if you'd be earning that amount every pay period for the whole year, which temporarily pushed the withholding calculation into the highest tax brackets. This is just over-withholding though, not your actual tax liability. When you file your return next year, that vacation payout will be taxed at your regular marginal rates based on your total annual income. You should get a substantial portion of that excess withholding back as a refund. Make sure to keep that pay stub with all the withholding details - you'll need it when filing your taxes. Also, if you're starting a new job soon, consider talking to HR about adjusting your W-4 to reduce your regular withholding slightly. This can help improve your cash flow while you wait for tax season to get that refund back. Just be conservative with any adjustments so you don't accidentally underwithhold for the year.

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This is such a relief to hear from everyone who's been through this! I was starting to panic thinking I'd somehow gotten scammed or that my employer made a mistake. The aggregate method explanation makes perfect sense now - of course the system would think I'm making bank if it's calculating as though I earn that vacation payout every single paycheck! I'm definitely going to keep multiple copies of that pay stub and will be conservative with any W-4 adjustments at my new job. It's frustrating to have so much of my money tied up until tax season, but at least now I know it's normal and I should get most of it back. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps to know I'm not the only one dealing with this crazy withholding situation!

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I experienced this exact same situation when I left my job with about 8 weeks of accrued vacation time. The 48.5% withholding shocked me too, but it's completely normal for large lump sum payments like vacation payouts. What's happening is your employer is using the "aggregate method" for withholding, which means their payroll system calculates taxes as if you'll earn that vacation payout amount every single pay period for the entire year. This temporarily pushes the withholding calculation into the highest tax brackets, even though that's not your actual situation. The good news is this is just withholding - not what you'll actually owe in taxes. When you file your return next year, this vacation money will be taxed at your normal marginal tax rates based on your total annual income. I ended up getting back about $2,100 of the excess withholding when I filed. My advice: definitely keep that pay stub safe (make copies!), and if you're starting a new job, consider mentioning this to HR when filling out your W-4. They might help you adjust your regular withholding slightly to improve cash flow while you wait for your refund. Just don't get too aggressive with adjustments - better to be conservative and get a bigger refund than risk owing money next April.

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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar vacation payout situation and was completely freaking out about the massive withholding. Reading everyone's experiences with the aggregate method and getting substantial refunds back has really put my mind at ease. I had no idea that payroll systems could be so dramatic with their withholding calculations - treating a one-time payout as if it's your new permanent salary level seems like such an outdated way to handle these situations. Your advice about keeping copies of the pay stub is spot on - I'm going to scan mine and store it in multiple places so I don't lose those important withholding details come tax time. The conservative approach to W-4 adjustments also makes a lot of sense. Better to wait a bit longer for a bigger refund than accidentally underwithhold and owe money next year!

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I went through this exact same thing last year with my vacation payout! That 48.5% withholding rate is brutal but totally normal - it's what happens when employers use the aggregate method for supplemental wages. Basically their payroll system freaks out and thinks you're suddenly making that lump sum every single paycheck for the whole year. The silver lining is that this is just withholding, not your actual tax liability. When I filed my taxes, I got back about $2,800 of the $3,600 they over-withheld from my vacation payout. The actual tax rate on that income ended up being much closer to my normal bracket. One thing that really helped me was immediately scanning and saving multiple copies of that pay stub - you'll definitely need those withholding details when you file. Also, I adjusted my W-4 at my new job to reduce regular withholding by about $150 per paycheck, which helped with cash flow while waiting for tax season. Just make sure to be conservative with any W-4 adjustments so you don't accidentally underwithhold for the year. It's frustrating having so much of your money tied up until you file, but you should get most of it back!

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who actually went through it! I'm a newcomer to this whole tax situation and was completely panicking when I saw my vacation payout get hit with such massive withholding. Your experience getting back $2,800 out of $3,600 over-withheld really gives me hope that this will work out okay. I love the tip about scanning multiple copies of the pay stub - I'm definitely going to do that right away so I don't lose those important details. The W-4 adjustment idea is smart too, though I'm probably going to be even more conservative than $150 per paycheck since I'm still learning how all this works. Maybe I'll start with $100 and see how it goes. It's such a relief to find this community and read everyone's similar experiences. I had no idea the aggregate method was even a thing, but now it makes perfect sense why the withholding was so crazy high. Thanks for sharing the real numbers from your situation - it really helps put this whole mess in perspective!

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I'm dealing with the exact same situation right now! Just left my company with about 520 hours of banked vacation time (I know, I know - should have used more of it during COVID). They hit me with 47% withholding and I was convinced there was some kind of error. Reading through everyone's explanations about the aggregate method has been such a huge relief. I had no idea that payroll systems could be so dramatic - treating my one-time vacation payout like I'm suddenly earning that amount every two weeks for the entire year seems completely ridiculous, but at least now I understand what's happening. I'm definitely going to follow the advice here about keeping multiple copies of my pay stub and being conservative with any W-4 adjustments at my new job. It's frustrating having thousands of dollars tied up until tax season, but knowing that most of you got back 75-85% of the over-withheld amount gives me hope. Thanks to everyone who shared their actual numbers and experiences - this community has been way more helpful than trying to navigate the IRS website or sitting on hold for hours!

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Welcome to the club of massive vacation payout withholding! 520 hours is impressive - I thought my 480 was a lot. It's crazy how these payroll systems handle lump sums, but you're absolutely right to follow the conservative approach everyone's recommending here. One thing I wish I had done earlier was to calculate roughly how much I expect to get back so I could plan for it. Based on what others have shared, you'll likely see 75-85% of that excess withholding returned, which should be a nice chunk of change come tax time. The waiting is definitely the hardest part, but at least now we all know this is completely normal and not some kind of payroll error. Good luck with your new job, and definitely keep us posted on how your tax filing goes next year!

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