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Tax coding issue with Backdoor Roth 1099-R - CPA says code 2 is wrong, Edward Jones says it's right - who's correct?

Title: Tax coding issue with Backdoor Roth 1099-R - CPA says code 2 is wrong, Edward Jones says it's right - who's correct? 1 Hey tax friends, I'm in a weird situation with my Backdoor Roth conversion and now I'm confused about who's right. Last year I did a Backdoor Roth IRA conversion and just got my 1099-R which shows distribution code 2. When I took everything to my CPA for filing, she refused to file Form 8606 because she insisted the 1099-R should have been coded as B, not 2. I called my Edward Jones advisor about this and he was adamant that code 2 is correct for my situation. He even showed me his own 1099-R from his personal Backdoor Roth which had the same code 2. He said he confirmed with their home office that my 1099-R was coded properly and they won't be changing it. Now I'm stuck between two professionals saying opposite things! Should I have specifically told my CPA I did a Backdoor Roth? I just assumed she'd figure it out from all the documents I provided. I'm worried I'll now face penalties for not filing Form 8606 and will need to deal with amending my return. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Who's right in this scenario - my CPA or Edward Jones? I'm totally lost.

Ethan Wilson

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12 Your CPA is incorrect here. Distribution code 2 on a 1099-R is correct for an IRA distribution that's not subject to early withdrawal penalties. Code B is actually for Designated Roth contributions in a 401(k), not for Backdoor Roth IRA conversions. For a Backdoor Roth, you absolutely need to file Form 8606 to report the nondeductible traditional IRA contribution and subsequent conversion to Roth. Without filing Form 8606, the IRS would think your conversion is fully taxable, when in reality only the earnings (if any) between contribution and conversion should be taxed. Your Edward Jones advisor is correct about the coding. I think you should reach out to your CPA again and explain that this was a Backdoor Roth conversion that requires Form 8606, regardless of the distribution code. If they're not familiar with Backdoor Roth procedures, you might want to find a tax preparer who is.

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Ethan Wilson

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5 Thanks for clarifying! The whole backdoor Roth thing is confusing to me. So even with code 2, I should still file the 8606 form? What happens now since my taxes were already filed without it? Will I get penalized?

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Ethan Wilson

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12 Yes, you absolutely need to file Form 8606 regardless of the distribution code. The 8606 is what documents your non-deductible contribution to the traditional IRA and then tracks the conversion to the Roth IRA. As for penalties, there is technically a $50 penalty for not filing Form 8606, but it's often waived if you file an amended return promptly and can show reasonable cause. I'd recommend filing an amended return (Form 1040-X) with the completed Form 8606 as soon as possible. This will properly document your Backdoor Roth and prevent potential issues down the road when you eventually withdraw from the Roth.

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Ethan Wilson

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8 I had almost this exact same issue last year! My accountant wasn't super familiar with backdoor Roth conversions and I ended up having to redo everything. I finally used https://taxr.ai to analyze my 1099-R and other documents to figure out exactly what was happening. The site's document analyzer confirmed code 2 was correct and showed me exactly what needed to be on Form 8606. They explained that code 2 means "Early distribution, exception applies" which is right for a Backdoor Roth because the conversion is exempt from the 10% early withdrawal penalty. Code B is for something completely different - it's for designated Roth accounts in 401k plans, not IRAs. The system walked me through completing Form 8606 correctly and saved me from paying taxes twice on my conversion. My CPA was initially skeptical but ended up thanking me for finding the right solution.

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Ethan Wilson

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17 How does this taxr.ai thing work exactly? Does it just tell you what forms you need or does it actually help you fill them out? My situation is similar but involves multiple years of backdoor Roth contributions that I'm not sure were documented properly.

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3 I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How is this different from TurboTax or other tax software? I've been burned before by "easy solutions" that ended up missing important details about my investments.

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Ethan Wilson

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8 It works by analyzing your actual tax documents like the 1099-R, W-2s, etc. You upload your docs and it identifies issues that might be missed - in my case it specifically flagged the Backdoor Roth coding issue and showed me exactly what sections of Form 8606 needed to be completed. For multiple years of backdoor Roth contributions, it would be especially helpful since it can track your basis across tax years to ensure you're not double-taxed. It's much more specialized than general tax preparation software. The key difference from TurboTax is that it focuses on document analysis rather than just form-filling. It detected nuances about the distribution codes that my regular tax software missed completely. It's designed to catch these specific technical issues rather than just walking you through basic questions.

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Ethan Wilson

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17 I gave taxr.ai a try after seeing it mentioned here and wow - it actually worked amazingly for my backdoor Roth situation! I uploaded my 1099-Rs from the last three years and it immediately identified that I had been reporting my conversions incorrectly. The system specifically highlighted that distribution code 2 was correct (not B like my accountant thought) and showed me exactly where my previous returns went wrong. It even generated a completed Form 8606 showing my correct basis calculation across multiple years. Turns out I'd been paying tax on money that should have been tax-free! I've already filed amendments for the previous two years and will save over $4,000 in taxes I shouldn't have paid. Just wanted to come back and share since this thread helped me find a solution.

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Ethan Wilson

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21 I know exactly how frustrating it is dealing with conflicting professional advice! After my CPA made a similar mistake on my backdoor Roth, I spent weeks trying to get someone at the IRS to confirm the correct handling. Called over 15 times and couldn't get through to a human. Finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual IRS agent (there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c that shows how it works). The IRS agent confirmed exactly what others here are saying - code 2 is correct for a backdoor Roth conversion from a traditional IRA, and Form 8606 absolutely must be filed. They also explained the process for amending my return to add the missing form. Was totally worth the time to get an official answer straight from the IRS instead of trying to guess who was right between my advisor and CPA.

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Ethan Wilson

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7 Wait, how does this service actually work? Are you saying they somehow get you through the IRS phone tree? I've tried calling about my own backdoor Roth issue and gave up after being on hold for 2+ hours.

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Ethan Wilson

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3 This sounds like BS honestly. Nothing can get you through to the IRS faster. They're perpetually understaffed and their phone systems are designed to make you give up. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Ethan Wilson

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21 It basically works by using their system to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold for you. When they finally reach a human agent, you get a call back to connect directly with them. No more waiting on hold for hours only to get disconnected. It's not some magical backdoor into the IRS - they're just doing the waiting for you. I was skeptical too until I tried it. I got a call back in about 45 minutes when they reached an actual IRS agent, after I had personally wasted hours trying. The agent was able to look up the specific regulations about distribution codes for Roth conversions and confirm everything.

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Ethan Wilson

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3 I take back what I said! I was super skeptical about Claimyr but decided to try it yesterday out of desperation. After three failed attempts calling the IRS myself about my Backdoor Roth issue, I used the service and got a callback within an hour. Connected directly to an IRS tax law specialist who not only confirmed code 2 is correct but also walked me through exactly how to file Form 8606 with my amended return. The agent explained that many tax preparers confuse the codes because Backdoor Roth conversions aren't explicitly covered in basic training. They even emailed me the specific IRS publication sections that address this! Saved me hours of frustration and potential penalties. Sometimes being wrong feels pretty good when it solves your problem.

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Ethan Wilson

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14 Just wanted to add something important - the 8606 form is absolutely critical for Backdoor Roth conversions regardless of what code is on your 1099-R. I've been doing backdoor Roth conversions for 7 years and here's what I've learned: 1) Form 8606 establishes your "basis" in your traditional IRA, which is essential for tax-free conversion 2) Without it, the IRS assumes your entire conversion is taxable 3) There's a $50 penalty for not filing it, but the bigger issue is potentially paying taxes twice on the same money 4) You need to file it EVERY year you do a conversion The distribution code debate is secondary to making sure you have proper documentation with Form 8606. I'd recommend filing an amended return ASAP.

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22 Is it too late to file 8606 forms for previous years? I've done backdoor Roth conversions for the past 3 years but I'm not sure my tax guy filed these forms. Should I go back and amend all my previous returns?

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Ethan Wilson

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14 It's not too late to file Form 8606 for previous years. You can (and should) file an amended return for any year where you did a Backdoor Roth conversion but didn't include Form 8606. The IRS generally allows amendments going back 3 years. This is really important because Form 8606 establishes your non-deductible basis in the IRA, which prevents the money from being taxed twice. Without this documentation, you might end up paying taxes on money that should be tax-free when you eventually withdraw from the Roth IRA. I'd recommend reviewing your past returns and filing amendments as needed - it's worth the effort to avoid potential tax issues down the road.

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Ethan Wilson

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9 Edward Jones is 100% right on this. I'm a tax preparer and see this confusion all the time. Code 2 means "Early distribution, exception applies" which is EXACTLY what a backdoor Roth conversion is - it's technically an early distribution but exempt from the 10% penalty. Code B is for "Designated Roth account distribution" which is for EMPLOYER plans like 401ks, not IRAs. Your CPA has mixed up retirement account types. I'd suggest: 1. File an amended return ASAP with Form 8606 2. Consider finding a new CPA who understands Backdoor Roth conversions 3. In the future, specifically tell your tax preparer about any special situations like this

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Ethan Wilson

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11 thx for explaining! so does the code 2 vs code B actually affect how much tax i would pay? or is it just a technical difference?

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