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Oscar Murphy

Received a 1099-R with incorrect distribution code for Roth indirect rollover - need help

So I've got a situation with a 2022 1099-R that's bugging me. I'm 55 years old, and I did a 60-day Roth IRA rollover last year (moved my Roth from Chase to Fidelity). I definitely got all the money deposited into the new Roth account within the 60-day window, so that part is fine. Here's the issue - when I received my 1099-R, box 7 has code 1 on it. From everything I've researched, this doesn't seem right for a Roth-to-Roth transfer. It looks like code J would be the correct code to indicate a Roth distribution that isn't taxable. When I was inputting this into TurboTax, I noticed code J properly indicates the amount as non-taxable, but code 1 seems to suggest it's an early distribution with no known exception. I'm worried this could trigger unnecessary tax or penalties even though it's just a Roth-to-Roth rollover. Has anyone dealt with this before? Should I contact the bank that issued the 1099-R to get it corrected, or is there a way to properly report this in my tax filing without getting a corrected form?

Nora Bennett

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This is definitely something that needs to be addressed. The distribution code in box 7 is critical for proper tax treatment. Code 1 indicates an early distribution with no known exception, which would typically be subject to taxes and penalties. For a Roth-to-Roth transfer, code J is indeed the correct code as it indicates a distribution from a Roth IRA. When financial institutions make errors on tax forms, it's always best to contact them directly and request a corrected 1099-R. These errors happen more often than you might think. While you wait for the correction, you can still file your taxes accurately by reporting the distribution as a non-taxable Roth rollover. On Form 8606, you'll want to indicate that this was a Roth-to-Roth rollover. This will ensure the IRS understands the true nature of the transaction regardless of what the 1099-R says. However, be aware that the mismatch between your reporting and the 1099-R could trigger a notice from the IRS.

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Ryan Andre

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Thanks for the explanation! I'm curious though - if OP files correctly showing it as a Roth rollover but the 1099-R has the wrong code, won't that automatically trigger an IRS letter? And how long do financial institutions typically take to issue a corrected form?

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Nora Bennett

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There is a possibility of receiving an IRS notice when there's a mismatch, but properly documenting the rollover on Form 8606 significantly reduces this risk. The IRS systems can often recognize legitimate rollovers despite code discrepancies. Financial institutions vary widely in their response times for issuing corrected forms. Some may process the correction within a week or two, while others might take 30-45 days. I recommend calling them immediately and asking specifically about their timeframe for issuing corrected 1099-Rs.

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Lauren Zeb

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Did you end up getting a corrected 1099-R from your bank? Or were you able to file without it? I'm in a similar situation and I'm wondering if I should just go ahead and file or wait for the correction.

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I'm a bit skeptical - what exactly does this service do that's different from just researching IRS publications? How does it know the specific rules for Roth rollovers and the right codes to use?

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Lauren Zeb

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I did actually get a corrected form eventually, but I went ahead and filed before receiving it. The key was documenting everything properly on Form 8606 to show it was a qualifying rollover. I included a brief statement explaining the situation too. The service is different from just reading IRS publications because it specifically analyzes your actual tax documents and identifies issues like incorrect codes. It basically checks all the forms against tax rules and flags potential problems. For Roth rollovers, it knows exactly which codes should be used based on the type of transaction and can confirm whether the financial institution coded it correctly.

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Anthony Young

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Admin_Masters

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Admin_Masters

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I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I was still stuck with my own 1099-R problem (similar issue but with a 401k rollover). I decided to try the service since nothing else was working. No joke - I was connected to an IRS agent in about 35 minutes. The agent walked me through exactly how to handle the reporting on my tax return, and explained what documentation I needed to keep in case of questions later. They even gave me specific language to use when requesting a corrected form from my plan administrator. The most surprising part was how much more helpful the IRS agent was than my 401k provider's customer service. They actually understood the tax code implications of the incorrect distribution code and helped me understand the right way to report it. Definitely changed my perspective on getting help directly from the IRS.

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Another option to consider: file Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2, 1099-R, etc.) along with your return. I had to do this when my financial institution refused to correct a similar error. You basically create your own corrected 1099-R with the proper code. You'll need to explain that the original form contained incorrect information and attach any supporting documentation showing the rollover was completed within the 60-day window. It's a bit more work but can be necessary if the financial institution is dragging their feet on issuing a corrected form.

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Oscar Murphy

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That's really helpful! Is Form 4852 difficult to fill out? I've never used it before. Does using this form increase the chance of an audit?

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Form 4852 isn't particularly difficult to complete. You essentially transfer all the correct information from your incorrect 1099-R, but with the proper distribution code. Make sure to clearly explain in Part 3 why you're filing the substitute form and what specifically was incorrect on the original. Filing Form 4852 doesn't automatically trigger an audit, but it does increase the likelihood of receiving correspondence from the IRS asking for clarification or documentation. That's why it's crucial to attach proof of the timely rollover (bank statements showing the withdrawal and subsequent deposit within 60 days) and to keep those records for at least three years after filing.

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Ella Thompson

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One thing nobody has mentioned - have you tried just talking to a human at your old bank? When I had a similar issue, I called and asked to speak with someone in their tax department directly. Explained that the code on my 1099-R was incorrect and potentially subjected me to taxes I didn't owe. Once I got to someone who actually understood tax forms (had to escalate twice), they immediately recognized the error and issued a corrected 1099-R within a week. Sometimes just finding the right person makes all the difference.

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JacksonHarris

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This is good advice. Front-line customer service often doesnt understand tax coding issues. Always ask to speak with the tax department or someone who specializes in retirement accounts. Persistence is key!

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I went through almost the exact same situation with my Roth rollover from TD Ameritrade to Schwab in 2022. Got a 1099-R with code 1 instead of code J, and it was a real headache. Here's what I learned: Don't wait around for the bank to fix it if you need to file soon. You can absolutely file your return correctly showing it as a non-taxable Roth rollover on Form 8606, even with the wrong code on the 1099-R. The key is documenting everything properly. I included a statement with my return explaining that the 1099-R contained an incorrect distribution code and that the transaction was actually a qualifying Roth-to-Roth rollover completed within 60 days. Make sure you have your bank statements showing the withdrawal date and the deposit date at the new institution. It took TD Ameritrade about 3 weeks to issue a corrected form after I escalated to their retirement services department, but I had already filed by then. Never heard anything from the IRS about it, so the proper documentation on Form 8606 did its job. The most important thing is not to let the incorrect code scare you into paying taxes you don't owe. A Roth-to-Roth rollover within 60 days is not a taxable event, regardless of what code is on the form.

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This is exactly the reassurance I needed! I've been stressed about this for weeks thinking I might get hit with penalties or taxes on what should be a straightforward rollover. Your approach of filing correctly with proper documentation while requesting the corrected form sounds like the best strategy. Did you include any specific language in your statement, or just a brief explanation about the incorrect code? I want to make sure I document this properly when I file.

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