Tax Debt Offset Question - Will Federal Refund Be Reduced After State Offset?
According to IRC 6402(a) and Treasury Regulation 301.6402-1, the IRS has authority to apply overpayments to outstanding tax liabilities. I had a federal tax balance of $1,100 for tax year 2023, but my state refund was recently offset and applied to this debt, reducing my balance to $806. My transcript shows code 846 with my full federal refund amount scheduled for deposit next week. I'm trying to understand if they will reduce this federal refund by the remaining $806 I still owe, or if they'll send the full amount shown on the 846 line? The timing here seems important since the state offset happened after my federal return was processed but before the scheduled deposit date. Working remotely has complicated my tax situation considerably.
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Oliver Becker
I would be cautious about assuming you'll receive the full federal refund amount. The IRS generally applies any refunds to outstanding tax debts before issuing payments. It's possible that the 846 code was generated before their system fully processed the state offset. Have you checked your account transcript recently to see if there are any new transaction codes that might indicate further adjustments?
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CosmicCowboy
This is probably correct. I had a somewhat similar situation last year where my transcript showed the full refund amount, but what I actually received was reduced by my outstanding balance. It might depend on exactly when the state payment was processed relative to when your federal refund was finalized, but I would definitely prepare for the possibility that you'll receive $806 less than what's showing on your transcript.
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Natasha Orlova
Based on the Treasury Offset Program (TOP) protocols, your federal refund will likely be reduced by the remaining liability. The code 846 represents the initial refund determination, but the Refund Offset process (transaction code 898) may not yet be reflected on your transcript. The Bureau of Fiscal Service conducts a final debt check before disbursement, regardless of what's currently showing as your 846 amount. Check your Account Management transcript specifically for any recent TC 898 entries.
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Javier Cruz
Exactly this! I worked in tax preparation for years and the system isn't always real-time. The 846 code is like your refund reservation, but the bouncer (BFS) still checks your ID at the door before letting the full amount through. š They'll almost certainly catch that remaining $806 before the money hits your account.
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Emma Thompson
Have you considered using a transcript analysis tool to get a clearer picture? When I was dealing with offsets last year, I was completely confused by all the codes and dates. Isn't it frustrating how the IRS makes everything so complicated? I finally used https://taxr.ai to analyze my transcript and it explained exactly what each code meant and how the offsets would be applied. It showed me precisely which part of my refund would be taken for my outstanding balance and when I'd receive the remainder. Saved me hours of stress trying to decipher those cryptic transcript codes.
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Malik Jackson
Is this service really any better than just calling the IRS directly? Like throwing money at a problem when there's a free solution? The IRS can tell you exactly what's happening with your refund and any offsets.
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Isabella Costa
I tried calling the IRS exactly 14 times over 3 days when I had a similar offset situation. Could never get through. Used taxr.ai and it showed me that my $3,242 refund would have $1,876 taken for past taxes and I'd receive exactly $1,366. The deposit hit my account 6 days later with that exact amount. Saved me from budgeting for money I wasn't going to get.
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StarSurfer
OMG this is actually super helpful info. Thx for sharing! My transcript has been giving me a headache with all those weird codes and I've been trying to figure out how much of my refund will actually make it to my account after my payment plan deduction.
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Ravi Malhotra
I had this exact situation. State refund applied to federal debt. Balance remained. Federal refund reduced by remaining balance. No surprises. IRS systems coordinate well on debt collection. Keep documentation of all payments. Request account transcript after refund processes. Verify final balance shows zero. Plan your budget assuming reduced refund.
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Freya Christensen
After dealing with a similar offset situation, I spent hours trying to get through to the IRS to confirm exactly how much I'd be receiving. The Automated Collection System (ACS) wasn't helpful and the regular customer service line had 2+ hour wait times. I finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) to get through to an agent in about 15 minutes. The agent confirmed that despite my 846 code showing the full amount, my refund would be reduced by my remaining liability balance. At least I knew for certain instead of being surprised when the deposit hit.
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Omar Hassan
Does this service actually work? I've tried calling the IRS multiple times and just get disconnected when the queue is full.
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Chloe Robinson
I'm surprised there's a service for this! How much does it cost? I'm wondering if it's worth it compared to: ā¢ Waiting on hold for hours ā¢ Taking time off work to call during business hours ā¢ Potentially getting disconnected multiple times My refund this year is substantial and I need to know exactly what's happening with it.
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Diego Chavez
I went through this last year and learned that the timing of everything matters a lot. In my case, my state refund covered part of my federal debt, but since the federal refund was already in the final processing stage, they still took the full remaining amount from my federal refund. I ended up with a credit on my account that was automatically applied to the next year's taxes. You might want to check if your state payment has been fully processed and reflected in the IRS system - sometimes there's a delay in how these payments are recorded.
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NeonNebula
Did you have to take any specific actions to get that credit applied to the next year? I'm concerned about potentially overpaying and then having to jump through hoops to get the money back or applied correctly.
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Anastasia Kozlov
Have you called the IRS directly about this? They can tell you exactly what will happen with your refund. Ask specifically about the remaining balance and whether the 846 amount will be adjusted. Request they check if the state payment has been fully applied to your account.
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Sean Kelly
On April 12th last year, I had an identical situation with almost the same amounts. My transcript showed code 846 for the full refund amount ($3,200), but when the deposit date of April 19th arrived, they had reduced it by my remaining balance ($750). The IRS systems don't always talk to each other in real-time, so what you're seeing on your transcript today might not reflect what will actually happen when they process the final payment.
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