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Carmen Lopez

Still haven't received my IP PIN for 2021 taxes - what can I do?

So frustrated right now. My spouse and I still haven't received ANY correspondence from the IRS except for that letter about the $1,800 stimulus payment that came months ago. We're specifically waiting for our CP01A letters with our new Identity Protection PINs, and we can't e-file without them! When we try the identity verification website to retrieve them, we just keep getting bounced around in circles with no results. What options do we have at this point? I'm starting to panic because the tax deadline is less than a month away, and we NEED those IP PINs to file electronically. Should we file for an extension? Is there some kind of workaround I don't know about? I never thought we'd be in this position when we were told we needed IP PINs last year. But here we are, clock ticking down, and no way to e-file because the IRS hasn't sent our new PINs for this year. Any advice would be seriously appreciated!!!!

The IP PIN situation can definitely be stressful, but there are a few options available to you. First, try calling the IRS Identity Protection Specialized Unit at 800-908-4490. While wait times can be long, they can often help resolve IP PIN issues over the phone. Have your previous tax return information ready when you call. If you're still unable to get your IP PINs through the phone or the online retrieval system, you can file your return by paper without the IP PIN. The IRS will process paper returns without IP PINs, though it will take longer as they'll need to verify your identity through other means. This isn't ideal since paper returns are experiencing significant delays, but it's an option if you're up against the deadline. Filing for an extension (Form 4868) is also a good idea in your situation. Remember that an extension gives you more time to file, but not more time to pay any taxes owed. If you think you'll owe taxes, try to estimate and pay that amount when filing the extension.

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Andre Dupont

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When you say file by paper - do we just print out our forms and mail them? And will this affect our refund timing? We're expecting about $3400 back and were counting on receiving it through direct deposit within a few weeks like usual.

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Yes, filing by paper means printing out your completed tax forms and mailing them to the IRS processing center for your region. You can still request direct deposit for your refund on a paper return. Unfortunately, this will significantly impact your refund timing. Paper returns are currently taking 6-8 months to process in many cases, as opposed to the typical 3 weeks for e-filed returns. The $3400 refund would still eventually be issued, but the timeline would be much longer than what you're used to with e-filing.

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Jamal Wilson

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How exactly does it help with IP PIN retrieval? The IRS site keeps telling me I need to mail in a form and wait 4-6 weeks which would put me past the deadline.

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Mei Lin

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Sounds sus tbh. How can a third party site get you an official IRS pin? Isn't that a security risk?

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It doesn't directly retrieve the PIN for you - rather it acts like a guide that walks you through the exact steps the IRS needs. It shows you which specific verification questions you need to be prepared for and identifies the best way to answer them based on your documentation. No security risk at all - it's not accessing your PIN directly. It's analyzing your specific tax situation and providing a customized troubleshooting guide for navigating the IRS verification. In my case, it identified that I needed to use a specific credit card for verification that I wouldn't have thought to try, and that's what finally worked.

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Jamal Wilson

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GalacticGuru

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Wait, how does this actually work? I've been calling the IRS for 3 days straight and can't get through - they just disconnect me saying the queue is full.

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Mei Lin

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No way this works. The IRS drops calls when they're overloaded. How would this service get around that? Sounds like another scam.

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Mei Lin

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Amara Nnamani

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Another option is to contact your local Taxpayer Advocate Service office. They can sometimes help with IP PIN issues when normal channels aren't working. You can find your local office on the TAS website. They've helped me with similar issues in the past.

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Carmen Lopez

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Thanks for the suggestion. How long does it typically take to get help from the Taxpayer Advocate Service? Do they have the same backlog as regular IRS services?

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Amara Nnamani

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The Taxpayer Advocate Service does have some backlog, but generally they can get to you within 1-2 weeks which is much faster than waiting for regular IRS correspondence. They prioritize cases with imminent deadlines, so if you explain you're trying to file before the deadline, they often expedite. When you contact them, be very clear that you've attempted all normal channels for obtaining your IP PIN with no success. They can often issue temporary PINs or provide alternative filing guidance.

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Just a note that if you're a victim of identity theft and THAT'S why you have an IP PIN, do NOT file without it, even on paper! That will create a huge mess. If you voluntarily opted into the IP PIN program, paper filing might be ok but still not ideal.

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Yes! This happened to my cousin. She filed paper without her IP PIN (after identity theft) and it took 14 months to resolve the issues it created. They froze her refund and she had to go through a whole identity verification process in person.

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