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Standard vs itemized deductions: Why would someone choose a lower itemized deduction than standard?

I'm really confused about something that came up while doing my taxes this year. I know we can choose between standard deduction or itemizing our deductions, but why would the tax form even give us the option to elect itemized deductions when they're LESS than the standard deduction? I was using TurboTax and noticed this weird option to choose itemized even though my total itemized deductions only came to about $22,300, which is way less than the standard deduction of $29,200 for married filing jointly in 2025. It seems like I'd be deliberately choosing to pay more in taxes! Is there some hidden advantage to this that I'm missing? Like maybe it affects some other calculation or credit? Or maybe it's beneficial for state taxes somehow? I just can't figure out why anyone would choose to itemize when they'd get a bigger deduction by taking the standard amount.

There are actually a few scenarios where choosing the lower itemized deduction makes sense! The most common reason is for state tax purposes. Many states base their deductions on what you claimed on your federal return. So if your state has more favorable itemized deduction rules, you might save more on your state taxes by itemizing federally (even with a lower amount) than what you lose on federal taxes. Another scenario involves certain refundable tax credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit. In some situations, lowering your adjusted gross income by taking less deduction can actually increase your refundable credits by more than what you lose in deductions. There are also some planning considerations across tax years. Sometimes taking a lower deduction this year sets you up for better tax benefits next year, especially if you're bunching deductions or managing income across multiple years.

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Thanks for the explanation! What about AMT? I've heard that Alternative Minimum Tax calculations treat standard and itemized deductions differently, so maybe that's a factor too?

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You're right that AMT considerations can play a role! The Alternative Minimum Tax calculation treats certain itemized deductions differently than the regular tax calculation. So in some cases, even though you might get a smaller deduction amount by itemizing, you could end up with a better overall tax outcome when considering AMT implications. For state tax purposes, it can be particularly beneficial in states with high income taxes or property taxes. Even though the SALT deduction is capped at $10,000 federally, some states don't have that cap, making itemizing much more valuable at the state level.

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Does this service actually help figure out if itemizing is better in your specific case? I'm in California with high state taxes and I'm wondering if I've been leaving money on the table all these years by just taking the standard deduction.

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There's another reason nobody mentioned yet - if you're married filing separately and your spouse itemizes, you MUST also itemize even if your itemized amount is lower than standard. That's a weird tax rule that forces both spouses to use the same method.

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Is that always true? Or are there exceptions? My wife and I file separately sometimes because of her income-based student loan repayment, but we've never coordinated our deduction methods.

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It is absolutely true with no exceptions. If you're married filing separately and one spouse itemizes, the other MUST itemize as well - even if taking the standard deduction would be more beneficial. It's in IRS Publication 501. If you and your wife have been filing separately with one itemizing and one taking standard deduction, you might want to amend those returns! The IRS can flag this inconsistency during processing or in an audit.

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Has anyone actually calculated how much you'd save/lose by taking the lower itemized deduction? I'm trying to figure out if it's even worth my time to run the numbers.

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It completely depends on your state and situation. In my case (Massachusetts), I saved about $725 on state taxes while "losing" about $300 on federal by choosing the lower itemized deduction. So net gain of $425.

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This is such a great question that I think many taxpayers struggle with! Beyond the excellent points already mentioned about state taxes and AMT considerations, there's another scenario worth considering - charitable contribution bunching. Sometimes taxpayers will choose to itemize in a "low" year (where itemized deductions are less than standard) as part of a multi-year strategy. For example, if you typically donate $8,000 annually to charity, you might donate $16,000 every other year and $0 in the alternate years. In the $16,000 year, you'd have enough to itemize meaningfully, but in the $0 year, your itemized deductions might be lower than standard - yet you'd still choose to itemize to maintain consistency in your tax planning strategy. Also, don't forget about the "bunching" strategy for medical expenses. Since medical expenses are only deductible above 7.5% of AGI, some people time their elective medical procedures to bunch expenses into one tax year, which might require itemizing even when the total is lower than standard deduction in order to set up the following year's bigger deduction. The key is looking at your tax situation holistically across multiple years and considering both federal AND state implications!

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This is really helpful! I never thought about the multi-year planning aspect. So if I'm understanding correctly, you might strategically take a "worse" deduction this year to set yourself up for better tax benefits next year? That's pretty sophisticated tax planning. Do most regular taxpayers actually do this kind of bunching strategy, or is it mainly for people with higher incomes who have more flexibility with timing their expenses?

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