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Carmen Ortiz

Should I itemize deductions or take standard deduction with new mortgage interest?

Recently moved to California with my wife and we're filing jointly for the first time as homeowners. Trying to figure out if we should itemize or take the standard deduction of $29,200. Here's what we have for potential itemizing: - Mortgage interest + points (from 1098): $37,500 - Charitable contributions: $1,850 - Property taxes: $1,900 - State income tax withheld (W2): $6,500 We also have: - Child tax credit: $2,000 - Energy-efficient home improvement credit (30% of cost): $700 I understand the child credit and energy improvement credit apply regardless of whether we itemize or take the standard deduction. Based on these numbers, should I definitely itemize? I've always taken the standard deduction, but since we bought our first home last year, I'm wondering if itemizing makes more sense now. Also, I'm confused about the state income tax withholding on my W2 - is that something I can deduct if I itemize? How does that work exactly? Thanks for any advice you can offer!

MidnightRider

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You should definitely itemize based on your numbers. Your potential itemized deductions add up to approximately $47,750 ($37,500 mortgage interest + $1,850 charity + $1,900 property tax + $6,500 state income tax). That's significantly higher than the standard deduction of $29,200. The state income tax withholding from your W2 is indeed deductible as part of your itemized deductions on Schedule A. However, there's a $10,000 cap on the total state and local tax (SALT) deductions, which includes both your state income tax and property tax. So you can only deduct $10,000 of your combined $8,400 ($6,500 state tax + $1,900 property tax). Even with that limitation, your itemized deductions would be around $49,350 ($37,500 mortgage interest + $1,850 charity + $10,000 SALT), which is still much better than the standard deduction. And yes, you're correct that the child tax credit and energy efficiency credit are available regardless of whether you itemize or take the standard deduction.

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Andre Laurent

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Thanks for the informative answer. I'm in a similar situation but bought my house two years ago. My mortgage interest is only about $19,000. With property tax of $3,500 and state income tax of $5,600, and very little charitable giving, would I still be better off itemizing? Is the $10,000 SALT cap per person or per return when married filing jointly?

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MidnightRider

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The $10,000 SALT cap is per return, not per person, so for married filing jointly it's still $10,000 total. For your situation, you'd have approximately $19,000 mortgage interest + $10,000 SALT (capped) + whatever charitable giving you have. If that total exceeds the standard deduction, then itemizing would be better. With just those numbers, you're at $29,000+ which is right around the standard deduction threshold, so every dollar of charitable contribution would push you into itemizing territory. It's worth calculating both ways to see which gives you the better outcome. Sometimes it's very close and other factors like tax preparation fees might influence your decision.

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I'm a bit late to this thread but I was in almost your exact situation last year. One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that if you're planning to itemize, you need to keep MUCH better records throughout the year. Start a folder now for 2025 tax receipts for: - Medical expenses (though these only help if they exceed 7.5% of your AGI) - Charitable donations (get receipts for EVERYTHING, even small donations) - Home office expenses if you qualify - Unreimbursed job expenses in certain fields - Investment expenses and fees The first year I itemized I was scrambling at tax time trying to find all these documents. Now I scan everything into a dedicated folder as it comes in.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Thank you for this advice about record keeping! I honestly hadn't thought about how much more organized I need to be for itemizing. Do you use any specific apps or systems to keep track of everything throughout the year? And does itemizing significantly increase my audit risk compared to taking the standard deduction?

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I use a combination of a physical folder where I immediately put any tax-related document, and then once a month I scan everything into a cloud folder organized by tax deduction category. There are dedicated tax organization apps, but I found a simple folder system works fine. As for audit risk, itemizing itself doesn't necessarily increase your audit risk significantly. What tends to trigger audits are unusual deductions, very large charitable contributions relative to your income, or home office deductions that seem excessive. Keep good documentation and be reasonable with your claims, and your audit risk remains relatively low.

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In my experience as a homeowner in California, keep in mind that property tax in CA is typically much lower than other states due to Prop 13, but state income tax is higher. With your numbers, itemizing is clearly better ($37,500 mortgage interest alone is way over the standard deduction). For future tax planning, remember that mortgage interest is usually highest in the first few years of your loan and decreases over time. So while itemizing may be clearly beneficial now, in 10-15 years as your interest payments decrease, you may need to reevaluate. Also, don't forget about PMI if you're paying it - that's deductible too in most cases when you itemize!

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Dylan Evans

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Is PMI still deductible in 2025? I thought that deduction expired and Congress keeps extending it year by year. Also, does anyone know if California state tax return automatically itemizes if you itemize on federal, or can you choose standard deduction for state even if you itemize federally?

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Good question about PMI - you're right that it's one of those tax provisions that keeps expiring and getting extended. For 2025, it's currently deductible but always check the latest IRS guidance as things change. For California state taxes, you can actually choose differently than your federal return. California has its own standard deduction amount, and you can itemize on your federal return while taking the standard deduction on your California return, or vice versa. Calculate it both ways to see which gives you the better outcome on your state return.

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Connor Byrne

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Based on your numbers, itemizing is definitely the right choice for you! Your mortgage interest alone ($37,500) exceeds the standard deduction of $29,200. When you add in your charitable contributions ($1,850) and the capped SALT deduction of $10,000 (your $6,500 state income tax + $1,900 property tax), you're looking at total itemized deductions of around $49,350 - that's over $20,000 more than the standard deduction! One thing to double-check: make sure that $37,500 figure on your 1098 is actually deductible mortgage interest and not including any principal payments or other fees. Sometimes lenders include things like property tax payments made from escrow, which you'd count separately. Also, since you mentioned this is your first year as homeowners, don't forget to look into any first-time homebuyer credits you might be eligible for in California. Some local municipalities offer additional tax benefits that could further reduce your tax liability. The transition from standard deduction to itemizing can feel overwhelming at first, but with mortgage interest that high, you're clearly in itemizing territory for the foreseeable future. Just make sure to keep good records of all your deductible expenses throughout the year!

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