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Should I file married joint or separate for 2025 taxes?

Hey tax folks, I'm trying to figure out if my wife and I should file jointly or separately for our 2025 taxes. We got married last September, and this will be our first time filing as a married couple. I earn about $78,000 as a software developer, and she makes around $52,000 as a teacher. We don't have any kids yet, but we did buy our first house in November. I've heard filing jointly usually saves money, but she has about $29,000 in student loans on an income-based repayment plan. Someone told us filing separately might keep her monthly payments lower. We both have some investments and I've got a side gig that brings in maybe $8,000 a year. Any advice on which filing status would benefit us more? I've been using TurboTax in the past but I'm open to other options if that helps with this decision.

Omar Zaki

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For most married couples, filing jointly is financially advantageous, but your situation has some nuances worth considering. The big factor here is your wife's student loans on an income-based repayment plan. Filing separately could indeed keep her monthly payments lower because only her income would be considered for the calculation, not your combined income. However, there are significant tax benefits you might lose by filing separately. Filing jointly typically gives you: higher standard deduction, more favorable tax brackets, full access to child and education credits (not applicable yet but good to know), and eligibility for IRA contribution deductions at higher income levels. Filing separately means: potentially losing credits/deductions (student loan interest deduction, education credits), higher tax rates kick in at lower income thresholds, and usually a higher combined tax bill. Try running your numbers both ways before deciding. Since you bought a house, filing jointly might let you maximize mortgage interest and property tax deductions, which could outweigh the student loan payment benefits.

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Chloe Taylor

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What about retirement accounts? If they file separately, does that affect how much they can contribute to IRAs or 401ks? Also, does the side gig income complicate things further if they file separately?

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Omar Zaki

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For retirement accounts, filing separately can indeed affect IRA contribution deductibility. If you file separately and either spouse is covered by a workplace retirement plan, the income limit for deducting traditional IRA contributions is much lower - just $10,000 compared to $228,000 for joint filers in 2025. So that's another potential drawback. Regarding the side gig income, it does add another layer to consider. When filing separately, you'd report that income only on your return, not your wife's. You'd still owe self-employment taxes on it either way, but the income tax impact might differ depending on which filing status puts you in which tax bracket. With separate filing, you might end up in a higher bracket with that additional income compared to if it were spread across a joint return.

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Does this actually work with student loan calculations? My accountant told me it's complicated because the loan servicers look at AGI, but some tax benefits affect AGI differently depending on filing status.

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Sean Murphy

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I'm a little skeptical. Can it really analyze income-based repayment implications accurately? That involves future projections of what you'll pay over time, not just this year's taxes. And does it factor in potential loan forgiveness if that's part of your spouse's plan?

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Diego Flores

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Nia Davis

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Don't overlook state taxes in this decision! My wife and I file separately for federal because of her student loans, but our state requires us to use the same filing status for state as federal. We lost some state tax credits that would've been available if we filed jointly. Run the numbers for both federal AND state before deciding.

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I hadn't even thought about the state tax implications. We're in Illinois - do you know if they have any specific rules about having to match your federal filing status on state returns?

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Nia Davis

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Illinois actually gives you some flexibility. While many states require you to use the same filing status on your state return as you do on your federal return, Illinois allows you to choose married filing jointly for your state taxes even if you file separately for federal. This can be advantageous in your situation - you could potentially file separately for federal to benefit your wife's student loan payments, while still filing jointly on your Illinois return to maximize state tax benefits. Just be aware that this makes your tax preparation a bit more complex, as you'll essentially be preparing multiple versions of your returns. Most tax software can handle this, but it might increase the cost of preparation.

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Mateo Perez

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Has anyone actually calculated how much the student loan payment savings is compared to the tax hit? When my husband and I were in this situation, we found filing jointly saved us $3,200 in taxes, while filing separately only reduced student loan payments by about $1,800 annually. The math didn't work out for separate filing in our case.

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Aisha Rahman

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It really depends on your specific income levels and loan balances. For us, it was the opposite. Filing separately increased our tax bill by $1,700 but decreased my wife's loan payments by $320/month, so about $3,840 annually. Net benefit of $2,140 by filing separately. Worth doing the math both ways!

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Thanks everyone for the detailed responses! This is exactly the kind of insight I was hoping for. Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like I really need to run the numbers both ways before deciding. The student loan angle is particularly helpful since that wasn't something I had fully considered. A few follow-up questions: Since we bought our house in November, would the mortgage interest deduction be significant enough to tip the scales toward joint filing? We put down 10% so we're paying PMI too. Also, for my side gig income, I'm assuming I'd need to pay quarterly estimated taxes regardless of filing status - does that calculation change much between joint vs separate? I'm definitely going to try running both scenarios through tax software before making the final call. The state tax implications Nia mentioned are also something I need to research for Illinois specifically. Really appreciate everyone sharing their real experiences with this decision!

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Aiden O'Connor

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Welcome to the community! Regarding your mortgage interest deduction question - since you only had the mortgage for about 2 months of 2024 (November-December), the deduction might not be as significant as it would be for a full year. However, don't forget that you can also deduct the points you paid at closing if you paid any, plus property taxes for those months. For your side gig quarterly estimated taxes, the calculation method stays the same regardless of filing status, but the actual amount might change. If you file separately, that $8k gets added only to your income rather than being spread across a joint return, which could bump you into a higher bracket. You'll want to recalculate your estimated payments once you decide on filing status. One more thing to consider - since this is your first year filing as married, you might want to consult a tax professional for this year just to make sure you're optimizing everything correctly. The combination of new marriage, home purchase, student loans, and side income creates enough complexity that professional guidance could pay for itself. Good luck with the decision!

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