< Back to IRS

Mei Zhang

Should I buy or lease a $100k company vehicle that qualifies for Section 179?

Our business has a new vehicle on order that's going to be strictly for company use. I'm really torn between buying it outright or going with a lease. We invested quite a bit into expanding the business this year, so our expenses are already high, but we're projecting significantly better profits starting next year. The vehicle's price tag is around $130k and it definitely qualifies for Section 179 deduction. I'm trying to figure out which option makes the most sense for our tax situation. Has anyone gone through this decision-making process before? What factors should I be weighing most heavily?

Liam McGuire

•

This is actually a complex decision that depends on several factors specific to your business situation. With Section 179, you can deduct the full purchase price of qualifying equipment (including vehicles) in the year it's placed in service, rather than depreciating it over several years. That said, there are some things to consider: If you purchase: You can take advantage of Section 179 to deduct up to $1,160,000 in 2024 (subject to phaseout thresholds). For a $130k vehicle, this could mean a significant immediate tax deduction. You'll also own the asset outright after it's paid off. If you lease: Your lease payments would be deductible as ordinary business expenses, but you wouldn't get the large upfront deduction. However, leasing means less capital tied up initially and potentially better cash flow management, especially important after significant business expansion.

0 coins

Amara Eze

•

Thanks for the explanation. Quick question though - aren't there specific limits on Section 179 deductions for SUVs and certain vehicles? I thought there was a cap around $27,000 or so for passenger vehicles, even if they're used for business? Or does that not apply in this case?

0 coins

Liam McGuire

•

You're absolutely right about the limits for certain vehicles. The Section 179 deduction is capped at $28,900 for SUVs between 6,000 and 14,000 pounds gross vehicle weight. However, this limit doesn't apply to vehicles that aren't considered SUVs (like vans, pickup trucks with bed length over 6 feet) or vehicles over 14,000 pounds. For vehicles under 6,000 pounds, the limits are even more restrictive for depreciation purposes. The type of vehicle matters tremendously here. If this $130k vehicle is a heavy pickup, large van, or specialized vehicle over 14,000 pounds, you might qualify for the full Section 179 deduction.

0 coins

After expanding my business last year, I faced the exact same decision with a work truck. I spent weeks researching and still wasn't sure what was best tax-wise. Then I found https://taxr.ai and it honestly simplified everything. I uploaded my business docs, answered a few questions about the vehicle and our finances, and it analyzed whether buying or leasing would optimize our tax situation specifically. What impressed me was how it considered our projected growth and cash flow together with the tax implications - not just the immediate Section 179 benefit. It examined both short-term deductions and long-term tax consequences based on our specific business situation.

0 coins

NeonNomad

•

Did it take your expansion costs into account when calculating? We're in a similar position with heavy investment this year but expect growth next year, and I'm wondering if the tool can factor in changing business circumstances.

0 coins

I'm skeptical about these tools. How detailed was the analysis really? Did it just give generic advice or did it actually look at your specific financials and provide numbers? Did it handle the specific vehicle tax classifications correctly?

0 coins

Yes, it absolutely factored in our expansion costs! You can enter your projected business changes including expected revenue growth, and it will run different scenarios to show how the vehicle purchase/lease will affect your taxes over multiple years. This was actually the most helpful part for us since our business wasn't static. The analysis was impressively detailed. It wasn't generic advice at all - it used our actual numbers and gave specific projections showing the tax implications of both options across a 5-year timeline. It correctly identified our vehicle's classification and applied the appropriate Section 179 limits based on the vehicle type and weight. It even showed how the timing of the purchase (this year vs. next) would affect our overall tax situation.

0 coins

NeonNomad

•

Just wanted to follow up - I decided to try out https://taxr.ai with our company's situation. Our business has been expanding with some expensive equipment investments, and we've been debating about a new delivery truck. The tool actually recommended leasing in our specific case, which surprised me because I was convinced buying would be better for the tax benefits. It showed that with our current expansion expenses this year, we were already maximizing our tax benefits, and spreading out the vehicle costs through a lease made more sense for our cash flow. The analysis even projected how things would change as our profits grow next year. Definitely saved us from making a costly decision - sometimes the conventional wisdom about Section 179 isn't right for every business situation!

0 coins

After trying to reach my accountant for WEEKS about a similar vehicle decision (she's completely swamped), I finally gave up and tried https://claimyr.com to get through to an IRS representative directly. They got me connected to someone at the IRS in about 15 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I needed clarification on how the vehicle weight and classification would affect the Section 179 deduction specifically for our business situation. The IRS agent explained exactly which forms I needed and confirmed the deduction limits for our specific vehicle type. I was able to make a decision with confidence instead of guessing what would be compliant.

0 coins

Wait, this actually works? I thought it was impossible to get through to a real person at the IRS. How much did they charge for this service? And what information did you need to provide them?

0 coins

Dmitry Volkov

•

I don't believe this at all. I've been trying to reach the IRS for months about a business tax issue. There's no way some service can magically get you through when millions of calls go unanswered. Sounds like a scam to collect people's info.

0 coins

Yes, it definitely works! I was connected with an actual IRS representative in about 15 minutes. They don't need much information from you - just what you'd need for the IRS anyway (basic identifying info to verify who you are when you get connected). The service just handles the waiting and calling part that's so frustrating. They don't answer your tax questions themselves - they literally just get you through to an actual IRS agent who provides the official information. This was crucial for me since my question was specific to how vehicle classifications affect Section 179 deductions, and I needed an official answer.

0 coins

Dmitry Volkov

•

I need to eat my words. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr anyway out of desperation since I've been trying to get IRS clarification about a business vehicle purchase for my landscaping company. I got through to an actual IRS representative in 20 minutes when I'd been trying for 3 MONTHS. The agent walked me through exactly how the Section 179 deduction would apply to our specific situation and helped me understand which vehicle classification forms we needed. They even explained how our business structure (S-Corp) affected the deduction timing. This was exactly what my accountant had been trying to determine without success. Ended up saving us thousands by making sure we structured the purchase correctly.

0 coins

Ava Thompson

•

Based on my experience as a business owner who's done both, your expansion expenses this year might actually make buying more attractive. If you're showing higher expenses already, the Section 179 deduction might be more valuable next year when your profits are higher and you're in need of more deductions. With leasing, consider that luxury vehicles often have inflated money factors (like interest rates) that can make them costly long-term. Also check if there's a purchase option at the end of the lease and what that residual value looks like compared to the expected market value.

0 coins

CyberSiren

•

What about depreciation recapture though? If they take the Section 179 deduction and then sell the vehicle in a few years, wouldn't they have to recapture some of that as ordinary income? Does that factor into your recommendation?

0 coins

Ava Thompson

•

Depreciation recapture is definitely something to consider. If you take Section 179 and then sell the vehicle later for more than its depreciated value, you'll have to report that difference as ordinary income, not capital gains. This can be a nasty surprise tax-wise. I still think purchasing makes sense in their expansion situation, but they should plan to keep the vehicle for a substantial period. If they anticipate needing to sell/upgrade within 2-3 years, leasing might actually be better to avoid recapture issues. This is especially true with how vehicle values have been behaving recently - some business vehicles aren't depreciating as quickly as the tax schedules suggest they should.

0 coins

Has your accountant run the cash flow projections for both scenarios? When we bought our last work truck, our CPA showed us that even though buying gave us the Section 179 deduction, the monthly lease payments were lower than loan payments would have been, which helped our cash flow during our expansion phase.

0 coins

Zainab Yusuf

•

This is the real question. Tax deductions are great, but cash flow is king, especially during expansion. We leased our delivery vehicles despite the Section 179 benefits of buying because we needed that cash for other investments that had better returns than tax savings.

0 coins

Another thing to consider: maintenance costs! When we leased our company vehicles, all maintenance was included. When we purchased, those repair bills added up fast, especially after warranty expired. This doesn't show up in the initial buy vs lease calculations but made a huge difference over time.

0 coins

Norman Fraser

•

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing of when you actually need the deduction. Since you mentioned you're already showing high expenses this year from expansion, you might not need the full Section 179 benefit right now. If your business is projecting significantly better profits next year, that larger deduction could be more valuable when you're in a higher tax bracket. Also, with a $130k vehicle, make sure you understand exactly what type it is for tax purposes. The Section 179 limits vary dramatically - if it's a luxury SUV under 14,000 pounds, you're capped at around $28,900 regardless of the purchase price. But if it's a heavy-duty truck or van over 14,000 pounds, you could potentially deduct the full amount. Have you considered a hybrid approach? Some dealers offer lease-to-own programs where you can start with lower monthly payments and decide later whether to purchase based on how your business performs.

0 coins

LunarLegend

•

That's a really good point about timing the deduction when it's most valuable. I'm curious though - if they decide to wait until next year to purchase when their profits are higher, wouldn't they miss out on this year's Section 179 limits? And what if the limits change for 2025? Sometimes it's better to use the deduction when you know it's available rather than gambling on future tax law changes. The hybrid lease-to-own approach sounds interesting too. Do those programs typically allow you to apply lease payments toward the purchase price, or do you essentially start over with financing if you decide to buy?

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today