Should I be saving 30% of my total profit or 30% of gross revenue for my LLC taxes?
Just completed my first big job through my LLC (sole proprietor) and I'm trying to figure out the tax situation. The payment was really good - around $9,800 - but I'm confused about how much to set aside for taxes. Should I be setting aside 30% of the entire payment amount, or 30% of what I actually profit after expenses? The job had a lot of installation costs - materials were about $5,700, plus I had to rent some specialized equipment for $650. So my actual profit is way less than the total I was paid. I've heard people say to always save 30% for taxes, but does that mean 30% of the $9,800 total revenue or 30% of what's left after deducting all those expenses? This is my first time dealing with self-employment taxes and I don't want to get blindsided next April.
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Liam Sullivan
You should always set aside money based on your profit, not your revenue. This is one of the advantages of running a business - you only pay taxes on what you actually earn after legitimate business expenses. For a sole proprietor LLC, you'll report business income and expenses on Schedule C of your personal tax return. The "profit" (revenue minus deductible business expenses) is what gets taxed - not your gross revenue. Those installation costs, materials, and equipment rentals are all legitimate business expenses that reduce your taxable income. So in your case, if you had $9,800 in revenue but $6,350 in deductible expenses, you'd only need to set aside taxes on the $3,450 profit. The 30% rule of thumb is good for most self-employed folks, as it covers both income tax and self-employment tax.
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Amara Okafor
•Thanks for the clear explanation! Quick follow-up question - does this mean I should keep receipts for absolutely everything related to the job? And what about things like gas for driving to the installation site or meals during the workday?
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Liam Sullivan
•Yes, definitely keep all receipts and documentation for everything business-related! This is critical if you're ever audited. Create a simple system now to track expenses - even a spreadsheet works well when you're starting out. For transportation, you can either deduct actual expenses (gas, maintenance, etc.) with proper documentation showing business use percentage, or use the standard mileage rate which is much simpler. Just keep a log of business miles. For meals during business travel, you can generally deduct 50% of the cost if properly documented. Local meals during a normal workday typically aren't deductible unless you're meeting with clients or there's another business purpose.
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CosmicCommander
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StarSeeker
Another thing to consider - the 30% rule of thumb might be too high or too low depending on your personal situation. If this LLC income is on top of a regular W-2 job, you might need to set aside more than 30% since you could be pushed into a higher tax bracket. I learned this the hard way my first year doing freelance work alongside my day job. I set aside 25% but ended up owing closer to 35% because my combined income put me in a higher bracket than I expected.
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Ava Martinez
•Good point! Would quarterly estimated tax payments help with this? I'm worried about underpaying and getting hit with penalties.
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StarSeeker
•Absolutely, quarterly estimated tax payments are essential if you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes from your self-employment income. They help you avoid the underpayment penalty at tax time. The IRS has a "safe harbor" rule - if you pay at least 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your previous year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face penalties even if you end up owing more when you file. Many self-employed folks use accounting software that can estimate your quarterly payments based on your actual profit as the year progresses.
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Miguel Ortiz
Has anyone used QuickBooks Self-Employed for tracking this stuff? Their tax estimator thingy seems helpful but idk if it's worth the monthly fee?
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Zainab Omar
•I've been using it for 2 years for my etsy shop. It's pretty good at separating business vs personal expenses and estimating quarterly taxes based on actual profit. The receipt scanner alone is worth it to me - just snap a pic and it categorizes everything. Around tax time it generates reports that make Schedule C way easier.
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Miguel Ortiz
•Thanks for the feedback! That receipt scanner feature sounds really useful. I've got a pile of receipts in my truck that I keep meaning to organize someday lol. Might give it a try.
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Connor Murphy
Just a warning from someone who learned the hard way - don't forget about state taxes too! The 30% rule usually covers federal income tax and self-employment tax, but depending on your state, you might need to set aside an additional 5-9% for state income taxes. I'm in California and got absolutely destroyed my first year in business because I only saved for federal taxes. Had to set up a payment plan with the state and it was NOT fun.
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Mei Chen
•Oh man, I hadn't even thought about state taxes! I'm in Minnesota - guess I need to look into their rates too. Thanks for the heads up, definitely don't want to be caught by surprise with that.
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Theodore Nelson
Minnesota state income tax rates range from 5.35% to 9.85% depending on your income level, so you'll definitely want to factor that in! Since you're just starting out, I'd recommend setting aside around 35-40% of your profit to cover both federal and state taxes - better to have a little extra cushion than come up short. Also, Minnesota requires quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe more than $500 in state taxes, so keep that in mind as your LLC grows. The Minnesota Department of Revenue website has a decent estimated tax calculator that can help you figure out roughly what you'll owe based on your projected annual profit. One more thing - make sure you're aware of Minnesota's self-employment tax situation. The state doesn't have its own self-employment tax (that's just federal), but they do have their own rules about what business expenses are deductible that might differ slightly from federal rules.
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Aurora Lacasse
•This is super helpful, thank you! I had no idea Minnesota had quarterly requirements at such a low threshold ($500 vs the federal $1,000). I'm definitely going to check out that state tax calculator you mentioned. Better to overestimate and get a refund than scramble to find extra money at tax time. Really appreciate everyone's advice on this thread - feels way less overwhelming now that I understand it's profit-based, not revenue-based!
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Brianna Muhammad
Great question! I went through this exact confusion when I started my handyman business. You're absolutely right to calculate based on profit, not gross revenue. In your case, with $9,800 revenue minus $6,350 in legitimate business expenses, you'd only need to set aside taxes on the $3,450 profit. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything in real-time. I have columns for revenue, materials, equipment rental, mileage, and other expenses. This way I can see my actual profit margin throughout the year and adjust my tax savings accordingly. Also, don't forget to track your business use of personal items - like if you use your personal truck for jobs, you can deduct the business mileage. And definitely keep digital copies of all receipts! I learned that lesson when I lost a box of receipts and couldn't claim about $800 in legitimate expenses. The 30% rule is a good starting point for profit, but as others mentioned, factor in your state taxes too. I'd rather set aside a bit extra and get a refund than scramble to find money I don't have come tax time.
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Diego Flores
•This is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I've been just stuffing receipts in a shoebox like some kind of caveman. Setting up columns for real-time tracking makes so much sense, especially being able to see profit margins as jobs come in rather than scrambling at the end of the year. Quick question about the business use of personal items - for the truck mileage, do you track every single trip or is there a simpler way to estimate? I'm driving to multiple job sites most days and the thought of logging every mile sounds overwhelming. Also, what about when I stop for materials on the way to a job site - does that whole trip count as business mileage? And you're totally right about digital copies! I already lost one receipt that blew away in the wind while unloading materials. Definitely going to start taking photos immediately.
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