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Xan Dae

Setting up depreciation schedule for a newly purchased nail salon - no previous records available

So my sister recently purchased a nail salon business for about $95k about 2 months ago. The purchase included all the salon assets - mainly 12 pedicure chairs plus a washer and dryer. I've been trying to help her with the tax stuff since she's not familiar with that side of running a business. Here's my problem - I reached out to the previous owner asking for the fixed asset schedule details so I could include it in my sister's business tax return, but they don't have any records or invoices. Apparently, they bought it from someone else who also didn't provide any documentation. The pedicure chairs were manufactured in 2021, so they're relatively new and definitely haven't been fully depreciated yet. Is it possible to create a new fixed asset schedule without having the original invoices? What's the proper way to handle depreciation in this situation? I want to make sure my sister's business taxes are done correctly from the start. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

The good news is you absolutely can create a new fixed asset schedule without the original invoices. When a business is purchased, you're essentially starting fresh with asset depreciation based on the purchase price allocation. First, you'll need to determine the fair market value of each asset acquired as part of the business purchase. The total of these values should generally equal the $95k purchase price. For the pedicure chairs, washer, dryer, and any other tangible assets, research current market values for similar used equipment. Then use IRS Publication 946 to determine the proper depreciation class for each asset - salon equipment typically falls under 7-year property using MACRS depreciation. Since you know the chairs were made in 2021, that helps with estimating their current value. Remember that goodwill (any amount of the purchase price exceeding the fair market value of tangible assets) is treated differently - it's amortized over 15 years, not depreciated.

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Xan Dae

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Thank you for the detailed response! When you say I need to determine fair market value, do I just research online what similar used equipment costs? And then for the tax return, will I need to specify when these assets were originally placed in service by the previous owner, or do I use the date my sister purchased the business?

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You can research online for similar used equipment prices or consult with equipment dealers who specialize in salon furnishings. Local salon supply companies can often provide good estimates for the current value of used equipment like pedicure chairs. For tax purposes, you'll use the date your sister purchased the business as the "placed in service" date for all the assets. This is important - you're not continuing the previous owner's depreciation schedule. You're starting fresh with your own cost basis (allocated from the purchase price) and new depreciation schedule beginning from the purchase date.

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Did the software actually help determine the fair market value of the equipment or did you still need to research that separately? I'm in a similar situation with a coffee shop purchase and haven't been able to get values for the espresso machines and refrigeration units.

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I'm a bit skeptical about using software for this. Wouldn't an accountant be better for something this specific? How exactly does it determine values for things like salon chairs when every situation is different?

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Thais Soares

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Kendrick Webb

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Have you considered getting a professional appraisal for the salon equipment? When I purchased my barbershop, I hired an equipment appraiser who specialized in salon/spa businesses. Cost me about $600 but was worth every penny because: 1. Got accurate fair market values for every piece of equipment 2. Received a formal report I could include with my tax documentation 3. The appraiser helped identify which items should be treated as separate assets vs. which could be grouped This approach really helps if you're ever audited because you have third-party verification of your asset values instead of just your own estimates.

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Xan Dae

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That's actually a really good idea I hadn't considered. The $600 seems worth it for the peace of mind. Did you find the appraiser through a specific industry connection, or just general business appraisers? And did they provide any guidance on depreciation classes, or just the values?

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Kendrick Webb

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I found the appraiser through our local salon equipment supplier - they regularly work with people buying and selling salon businesses. Most major cities have equipment appraisers who specialize in different business types, so I'd recommend asking salon supply vendors in your area for recommendations. The appraiser did provide basic guidance on depreciation classes for each item, but their main value was providing documented fair market values with proper descriptions of each asset. They also helped me separate the value of installed equipment versus easily movable items, which affected how some assets needed to be treated. Their formal report became part of my permanent tax records.

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Hattie Carson

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you properly account for Section 197 intangibles in your sister's purchase! A big portion of that $95k likely isn't for physical assets at all, but for business goodwill, customer lists, etc. When I bought my accounting practice, the physical assets (computers, furniture, etc.) were only worth about $15k, but I paid $120k for the business. The rest was Section 197 intangibles that get amortized (not depreciated) over 15 years straight-line with no exceptions.

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This is a critically important point. I made this exact mistake when buying my first business - tried to allocate too much to physical assets and not enough to goodwill. Ended up having to amend returns. The IRS is very aware of this issue!

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