Schedule A Line 5a help needed - confused about instructions
Hey tax folks, I'm really struggling to understand the instructions for Line 5a on Schedule A. I think I'm completely misinterpreting something, but I can't figure out what I'm missing. This is my first time itemizing deductions and the wording on the form is confusing me. I've read through the instructions multiple times and still feel lost. Has anyone dealt with this part of Schedule A before who could explain it in normal person language? Would super appreciate any insight!
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Noland Curtis
I've filled out Schedule A many times and Line 5a is about state and local income taxes OR general sales taxes - you can only claim one of these options, not both. This is a common point of confusion! The 5a line is where you'd enter your state/local income taxes that were withheld from your W-2, 1099s, or any estimated tax payments you made to your state. If you don't have income taxes to report or if your sales tax would give you a bigger deduction, you'd check the box for sales tax instead. Remember that under the current tax law, your total deduction for state and local taxes (including property taxes on line 5b) is limited to $10,000 ($5,000 if married filing separately).
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Diez Ellis
•So what's better to claim - income tax or sales tax? I make about 80k and live in Tennessee if that matters.
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Noland Curtis
•For most people who live in states with income tax, claiming state income tax is usually more beneficial. But since you're in Tennessee, which doesn't have a general income tax on wages (just on certain investment income), you'd likely benefit more from claiming sales tax. You have two ways to calculate the sales tax deduction: either add up all the sales tax from receipts you kept throughout the year (which most people don't do), or use the IRS Sales Tax Deduction Calculator which estimates your deduction based on your income and location. You can add any sales tax from major purchases like vehicles or home improvement materials on top of the IRS estimate.
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Dominique Adams
For Schedule A line 5a specifically, don't forget you can also include: - State income taxes paid with your previous year's state return (if you owed) - Any state estimated tax payments you made during the year - Local income taxes (city or county) if you have those A lot of people just put their W-2 state withholding which might be leaving money on the table!
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Marilyn Dixon
•Question: if I paid state taxes when I filed last year (April 2024 for tax year 2023), which tax year does that count for on Schedule A - 2023 or 2024?
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Dominique Adams
•It counts for the year you actually paid it. So if you paid additional state taxes in April 2024 when you filed your 2023 return, that payment would be a deduction on your 2024 Schedule A (the return you'll file in 2025). This is a common misunderstanding! The rule is that you deduct state and local income taxes in the year you actually pay them, not the tax year they apply to. So keep those payment records handy for this year's taxes.
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Louisa Ramirez
Anyone know if foreign income taxes can be listed on Schedule A line 5a as well? I worked overseas for 3 months last year.
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TommyKapitz
•You usually have two options for foreign taxes - you can take a credit using Form 1116 OR deduct them on Schedule A. The credit is generally better because it reduces your tax directly rather than just reducing taxable income. But it depends on your specific situation.
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