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Revoking SCorp Election made this year - can we go back to SMLLC?

I have a business owner I'm advising who made an SCorp election (from SMLLC) at the beginning of this tax year, and it was accepted by the IRS. Now they're having serious doubts and want to revoke the election and revert back to being a SMLLC. I'm not sure if this is even possible given what I'm seeing on Form 8832. I called the IRS yesterday and the agent suggested I could send a letter explaining the situation along with Form 8832. They said they would review and determine if they'll allow reverting back to an LLC. The agent mentioned that since all this happened within the same tax year, there might not be any consequences and they could accept it - but there's absolutely no guarantee. The other complication is what happens with the state where the LLC is registered (New Jersey). I still need to contact them to understand what effects this might have at the state level. At this point, I'm leaning toward just advising my client to stick with the SCorp election and make it work rather than dealing with all this uncertainty. Has anyone dealt with something similar or have advice?

Based on my experience, revoking an S Corp election within the same tax year is certainly possible, but it's not straightforward. The IRS agent gave you good advice about submitting a letter with Form 8832. What's important to understand is that when you initially made the S Corp election, your entity first became a C Corporation for federal tax purposes, then elected S status. Now you want to go back to being treated as a disregarded entity (SMLLC). When you submit your request, make it crystal clear that no tax returns have been filed under the S Corp election yet and emphasize that this is happening within the same tax year. This timing factor is huge and improves your chances significantly. For New Jersey, you'll need to check with them separately since state tax treatment doesn't automatically follow federal. NJ may have their own process for entity classification that's independent of the federal election. The decision between sticking with S Corp or reverting to SMLLC really depends on your client's specific circumstances - income level, payroll requirements, etc. S Corps can offer self-employment tax savings, but come with more administrative requirements.

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If they've already been doing payroll as an S Corp, would that complicate the reversal? Our company did something similar but we'd already run a couple quarters of payroll with the owner taking a "reasonable salary" and the rest as distributions. The IRS gave us a hard time about trying to go back.

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If they've already been running payroll as an S Corp, that definitely complicates things. When payroll has been processed, you've effectively started operating as an S Corp, which makes the reversal more difficult to justify. The IRS might view that as having "availed yourself" of the S Corp status. For situations where no tax returns or payroll have been processed under the S Corp election, the reversal is much more straightforward. The key is demonstrating that you haven't actually implemented or benefited from the S Corp status in any concrete way yet.

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I thought Claimyr was total BS but I was desperate after spending 3 days trying to reach the IRS about my LLC tax election. I tried it yesterday and had an IRS agent on the line in 15 minutes. The agent confirmed I could reverse my S-Corp election within the same tax year by sending Form 8832 with a detailed letter, and told me exactly which department to send it to (which wasn't obvious from the form instructions). Still shocked it actually worked. Just got confirmation my fax went through to the right department.

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I went through this exact situation last year. If you haven't filed any S-Corp tax returns yet and haven't paid any payroll, you can likely get the S-Corp election revoked. Key points: 1. File Form 8832 checking the box to be treated as a disregarded entity 2. Include a detailed letter explaining that the election was made recently, no returns filed, and the business wants to be treated as if the election was never made 3. Reference Rev. Proc. 2022-19 which provides relief procedures for certain S corporation elections 4. Send via certified mail and keep proof For New Jersey, you'll need to file NJ-REG if you haven't already to ensure proper state tax treatment. NJ generally follows federal classification but requires separate notification. I'd get this done ASAP rather than waiting!

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Which address did you send your Form 8832 to? I'm looking at the form and there are different addresses depending on the situation and I'm not sure which applies to revoking an S election.

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I sent it to the same IRS service center where the original Form 2553 (S election) was filed and processed. In my case, that was the Cincinnati service center. I included a copy of my S election acceptance letter to make it easier for them to locate my records. The key is making sure your Form 8832 and letter clearly reference your previous S election so they can connect the dots. I also called the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line before sending to confirm the right address, which I'd recommend.

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Has anyone dealt with the tax consequences if the IRS accepts the revocation? I'm thinking about revoking my S-Corp too, but I'm worried about how to handle things like the built-in gains tax or other penalties.

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If you're revoking within the same tax year and haven't filed any returns as an S-Corp, there's typically minimal tax impact. The big issues come if you've been an S-Corp for years and have accumulated earnings or appreciated assets. In your case, there's likely no built-in gains tax if you're still in your first year and haven't done anything operationally as an S-Corp yet.

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I've been through this exact scenario with a client earlier this year. The timing is actually in your favor since you're still within the same tax year. Here's what worked for us: We submitted Form 8832 with a detailed letter explaining that the S-Corp election was made in error and requesting to revert to disregarded entity status. The key was emphasizing that no S-Corp tax returns had been filed and no payroll had been processed under the election. The IRS approved our request within about 6 weeks. What really helped was including a copy of the original S-Corp election acceptance letter and clearly stating that we wanted the entity treated "as if the S-Corp election had never been made." For New Jersey, you'll definitely want to contact them separately. NJ doesn't automatically follow federal changes, so you may need to file additional paperwork there. Honestly, if your client is having serious doubts this early, it's probably worth pursuing the revocation rather than being stuck with an unwanted election for 5 years. The administrative burden of S-Corp compliance isn't worth it if it doesn't fit their business model.

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