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Fatima Al-Farsi

Received Duplicate IRS Letters for Estimated Tax Penalty - Same Amount but Separate Notices?

My husband and I just opened our mail to find 2 separate IRS letters that both show a penalty balance for failure to pay proper estimated taxes. Super confusing! Each letter shows the exact same amount of $217.35, but strangely both letters only have my husband's SSN on them. His letter is the only one with a Caller ID number though. We filed our 2023 taxes as Married Filing Jointly with my husband listed as the primary taxpayer. We also filed MFJ for 2022. What's really throwing us off is whether we're supposed to pay $217.35 total (since both letters reference only his SSN and we filed jointly) OR if we somehow each owe $217.35 for a total of $434.70? This is our first time ever dealing with any kind of tax penalty and we're honestly pretty stressed about it. Has anyone dealt with duplicate IRS notices like this before? Any insight would be really appreciated!

Dylan Wright

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This happens more often than you'd think! When you file MFJ, the IRS sometimes sends duplicate notices by mistake. Since both letters have the same amount and only show your husband's SSN (and he's the primary on your joint return), you almost certainly only owe $217.35 total. The duplicate notice is likely a system error. The fact that only one has a Caller ID number further suggests it's a duplicate. The IRS computer systems sometimes generate these duplicate notices, especially for penalties related to estimated tax payments on joint returns. I would recommend calling the IRS using the number on the notice that has the Caller ID number. Explain you received duplicate notices for the same penalty amount with the same SSN. They can confirm you only need to pay once.

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Sofia Torres

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Thanks for explaining this! Could the duplicate be because they're actually for different tax years? I once got what looked like duplicate notices but one was for 2021 and one was for 2022 even though they had the same penalty amount.

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Dylan Wright

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That's definitely a possibility worth checking. Look carefully at the tax period or tax year listed on each notice - they should be clearly marked somewhere on the letter. If they're for different years, then yes, you would need to pay both penalties. If they're for the same tax year, same SSN, and same penalty amount, then it's almost certainly a duplicate. The IRS systems sometimes split penalties for joint filers even though they're only owed once.

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Ava Rodriguez

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Ava Rodriguez

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Miguel Diaz

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Zainab Ahmed

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I need to eat my words about Claimyr being a scam. After commenting here, I actually tried it for my own estimated tax penalty issue. I'd been trying to reach the IRS for over a week with no luck. The service called me back in about 35 minutes and connected me directly to an IRS agent - no waiting, no phone tree navigation. The agent confirmed I only needed to pay one of my duplicate notices. Honestly felt like magic after my previous attempts to call them directly where I waited 2+ hours and got disconnected.

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AstroAlpha

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If you want to avoid calling altogether, you can also check your tax account online at IRS.gov. Create an account (if you don't already have one) and look at your account balance. It will show the actual amount you owe. If it only shows one penalty amount of $217.35, then that confirms you only need to pay once. The online account is pretty accurate and updates within a few days of notices being sent out. Might save you the hassle of calling.

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Thanks for this suggestion! I tried checking the online account but for some reason it's only showing our most recent return info, not this penalty. Is there a specific section where penalties would show up?

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AstroAlpha

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The penalties should show up under the "Account" tab after you log in. Once there, look for a section called "Balance Details" or "Amount You Owe." It can take up to 5 business days for new penalties to appear in the system after notices are mailed. If you're not seeing it there, it's possible the penalty is still processing in their system. The other possibility is that if these notices were just sent, the online system hasn't been updated yet. The IRS isn't exactly known for their speedy technological updates!

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Yara Khoury

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Just want to add - make sure to keep BOTH notices! Even if you only pay once, keep both in your records. The IRS sometimes has one department that doesn't know what the other is doing, and you might need to prove later that you received duplicate notices if they try to say you didn't pay one of them. Also check the payment vouchers carefully - sometimes they have different payment processing codes even if they're for the same penalty. In that case, use the voucher from the notice with the Caller ID.

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Keisha Taylor

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Good point about keeping records! I had an issue where I paid one notice but the IRS later tried to collect on the "other" notice not realizing it was a duplicate. Having both letters saved me a huge headache.

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