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Ethan Moore

Private Credit Union Loan vs. IRS Fresh Start program for $10k tax debt - which is better?

So my husband and I are in a bit of a mess with our taxes - we owe about $13.5k to the IRS because I was working as an independent contractor last year and totally underestimated my quarterly payments (rookie mistake!). I'm already setting aside money for this year's taxes so I don't repeat this nightmare. My husband has a regular W-2 job, while I've been on 1099 until recently. Our combined income last year was around $95k, but we're expecting to hit about $140k this year since I'm transitioning to W-2 employment soon. Our monthly expenses are already pretty tight - I'm drowning in student loan payments (around $1500/month), we have two car payments with some equity but not much, and we're still chipping away at some credit card debt. My credit score is decent at 760, but my husband's is only around 620 since he moved here a few years ago and doesn't have much credit history. I'm trying to figure out the smartest approach here. Should we apply for the IRS Fresh Start program? We did have a small tax debt of about $1500 a couple years back that we paid through an installment plan (which is completed now), so I'm not sure if that affects our eligibility. Alternatively, our credit union offers personal loans at around 4% interest. Would that be better than whatever interest/penalties the IRS charges? I just don't have $13.5k to hand over in one lump sum, and with all our monthly obligations, I can't commit to massive monthly payments to the IRS while still saving for this year's taxes. Any advice would be super appreciated!

The IRS Fresh Start program might be your best option here, even with your previous installment plan. That previous plan shouldn't disqualify you since it's paid off. The IRS interest rate is currently around 7% with an additional failure-to-pay penalty of 0.5% per month (capped at 25%). So your credit union's 4% loan would definitely save you money on interest alone. However, before deciding, consider these factors: With an IRS installment plan, you can set up a payment arrangement for up to 72 months if you owe less than $50,000. The setup fee is $149 for direct debit payments (online application) but you might qualify for a reduced fee based on income. The minimum monthly payment would be your total debt divided by 72, so around $188/month in your case. If you go with the credit union loan, you'll pay less interest, but you might face higher monthly payments depending on their terms. The loan would immediately clear your tax debt though, which means no IRS liens or potential enforcement actions.

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Carmen Vega

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Thanks for this breakdown. Do penalties continue to accrue while you're in a payment plan with the IRS? And if we choose the credit union route, are there any tax benefits to paying interest on a loan used to pay taxes?

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Yes, interest and penalties continue to accrue while you're in a payment plan, but the failure-to-pay penalty is reduced from 0.5% to 0.25% per month when you're on an approved installment plan. So you're still accruing costs, just at a slightly lower rate. Unfortunately, there are no tax benefits for paying interest on a personal loan used to pay taxes. Interest on personal loans is not tax-deductible, regardless of how you use the funds. This is different from mortgage interest or student loan interest, which can be deductible in certain situations.

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Amara Okafor

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you go with the IRS installment plan, make sure you adjust your W-4 and make estimated quarterly payments so you don't end up owing AGAIN next year while still paying off this debt. That happened to my cousin and it was a disaster. The Fresh Start program is good, but the IRS gets really strict if you owe taxes while already in a payment plan for previous taxes. They can cancel your agreement and demand full payment immediately.

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Ethan Moore

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Since I'm transitioning to W-2 soon, what's the best way to make sure enough is withheld? Should I just put "0" allowances on my W-4? And how much should I set aside from my remaining 1099 income for the rest of this year?

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Amara Okafor

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I'd recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website to calculate exactly what you need for your W-4. With your student loans and other deductions, putting "0" might withhold too much and hurt your monthly cash flow when you're already tight. For your remaining 1099 income, the general rule is to set aside about 30-35% of your gross earnings for federal, state, and self-employment taxes. Since you're in a combined income situation with your husband's W-2, it gets more complicated, but that percentage should keep you safe. Make quarterly estimated payments on those earnings to stay compliant and avoid next year's penalties.

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One thing to consider - a credit union loan will show up on your credit report, while an IRS payment plan won't (unless they file a tax lien, which they typically don't for amounts under $25k if you're on a payment plan). So if you're planning any major purchases in the next few years that would require financing, the extra debt on your credit report might impact your rates.

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This is actually not entirely correct. The IRS can file a Federal Tax Lien even for amounts under $25k in some circumstances. Also, while being on a payment plan itself doesn't report to credit bureaus, if you default on your payment plan, it absolutely can impact your credit indirectly through collection actions.

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