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Dmitry Volkov

Options for Buying/Selling S Corp Shares Within Family - Tax Implications?

I need some input before meeting with our CPA and attorney. Looking for suggestions on what to discuss with them. My father currently owns 80% of our family's service-based S Corp, while my sister and I each hold 10%. He's decided he wants to exit the business completely and sell his remaining shares to us. He's being flexible about the arrangement - either financing the purchase interest-free or selling us portions of his shares annually at a rate we can manage financially. From his perspective, this approach would reduce his tax exposure to just capital gains. The issue is that on our side, we'd be facing taxes on the company profits we'd use each year to purchase his shares. This seems inefficient tax-wise. Are there better approaches to structure this transition that might be more tax-advantageous for everyone involved? What strategies or options should we ask our CPA and attorney about when we meet with them?

StarSeeker

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The S Corp share transfer situation you're describing is pretty common in family businesses. Here are some approaches worth discussing with your advisors: An installment sale might work well here - your dad could sell his entire 80% now but accept payments over time. He'd only pay capital gains tax on the portions received each year, which spreads out his tax burden. Meanwhile, you and your sister would become full owners immediately. Another option is a redemption approach - have the S Corp itself purchase your father's shares instead of you buying them personally. This can sometimes be more tax-efficient depending on the company's cash position and your personal situations. You might also consider a partial gift strategy where your dad gifts some percentage of shares annually (up to the gift tax exemption amount) and sells the rest. This reduces the total purchase price you'd need to finance. If retirement planning is part of your dad's exit strategy, structuring payments as deferred compensation or a consulting arrangement for transition services could potentially benefit everyone tax-wise.

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Ava Martinez

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For the redemption approach, wouldn't the company need significant cash reserves? And doesn't that essentially amount to the same thing since we'd still be taxed on distributions as shareholders that the company would otherwise use for the redemption?

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StarSeeker

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You're right to question the cash position required for a redemption. The company would need available funds, and yes, there's a relationship between distributions and redemptions since both impact company cash. The potential advantage comes from tax treatment differences. When an S Corp distributes earnings, shareholders pay income tax on their proportionate share regardless of whether they received cash. With a redemption, your father would receive cash and pay capital gains rates on the difference between his basis and the redemption amount, while the company's taxable income allocation would shift going forward since ownership percentages change.

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Miguel Ortiz

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Zainab Omar

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Did they handle all the required valuation work too? Our family business has never had a formal valuation and I'm worried about how to establish a fair price that also works tax-wise.

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Connor Murphy

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I'm skeptical about online services for something this complex. Did you still need your CPA after using them? Seems like they'd just tell you generic advice anyone could find on Google.

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Miguel Ortiz

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They don't replace the actual valuation work - you'd still need a business appraiser for that. What they do is analyze the tax consequences of different purchase structures based on whatever valuation you establish. Their system helped us model different scenarios to see the multi-year tax impact. We absolutely still used our CPA, but he was impressed with the depth of the analysis we brought to the meeting. It wasn't generic at all - it was specific to our S Corp structure, personal tax situations, and proposed transfer terms. Having this analysis beforehand made our CPA meetings much more productive since we already understood the basics.

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Connor Murphy

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NebulaNova

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How exactly does this work? I've been trying to reach the IRS for 3 weeks about a similar issue with S Corp basis adjustments. Do they just keep calling for you or what?

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Paolo Conti

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Don't overlook the importance of having the S Corp properly valued by a qualified business appraiser. If the IRS ever questions the share transfer price, you'll need documentation showing it was a legitimate fair market value transaction. This is especially true for family transfers where the IRS tends to scrutinize transactions more carefully. An independent valuation might cost $5-10k depending on your business complexity, but it's worth it for protection.

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Amina Diallo

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Is there a specific type of business appraiser we should look for? Our company is in the professional services sector (engineering consulting), so much of the value is in contracts and relationships rather than hard assets.

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Paolo Conti

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For professional service firms, look for a business appraiser with specific experience valuing service-based companies. You want someone who understands how to properly value your client relationships, contracts, and goodwill. The American Society of Appraisers (ASA) or the National Association of Certified Valuators and Analysts (NACVA) are good places to start. Ask potential appraisers about their experience specifically with professional service firms and S Corps. They should understand the multiple of earnings or discounted cash flow methodologies appropriate for your industry.

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Oliver Schulz

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One option nobody's mentioned is using an Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) to facilitate the transfer. This could potentially allow your dad to defer capital gains taxes if structured properly.

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ESOPs are expensive to set up and maintain though. Unless this is a pretty large S Corp (like $5M+ in value), the administration costs would probably outweigh any tax benefits.

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Eve Freeman

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Consider exploring a Section 1202 qualified small business stock (QSBS) analysis as well. If your S Corp qualifies and your father has held his shares for at least 5 years, he might be eligible for significant capital gains exclusion (up to $10 million or 10x basis, whichever is greater). Also worth discussing with your advisors is the timing of any conversion strategies. Some families benefit from converting to a C Corp temporarily before the sale to take advantage of QSBS benefits, then converting back afterward, though this requires careful planning around the built-in gains tax rules. Another angle to explore is whether your father might benefit from charitable remainder trust (CRT) strategies if he has philanthropic goals. This could allow him to defer capital gains while providing income over time and eventual charitable benefits. The key is running the numbers on multiple scenarios before committing to any single approach. Each family's situation is unique based on the business value, personal tax situations, and long-term goals.

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This is really helpful - I hadn't considered QSBS at all. Our S Corp was formed in 2018 and my father has been the majority owner since then, so we'd meet the 5-year holding requirement. The business is definitely under the $50M gross assets threshold for QSBS qualification. The C Corp conversion strategy sounds intriguing but also complex. Would we need to maintain C Corp status for any minimum period to qualify for QSBS treatment? And how do the built-in gains tax rules work if we convert back to S Corp afterward? Also wondering about the CRT approach - my father has mentioned wanting to leave something to charity eventually. Could this potentially work alongside a partial sale to us, or would it need to be structured as an either/or situation?

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Ella Knight

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Great questions about QSBS and conversion strategies! For C Corp conversion, there's no minimum holding period once you convert - the 5-year clock starts from when your father originally acquired his S Corp shares (2018 in your case), not from the conversion date. However, the built-in gains tax is crucial to consider. If you convert back to S Corp status within 5 years of the C Corp conversion, any built-in gains from the conversion date would be subject to corporate-level tax when recognized. This could significantly impact the economics, so you'd want to model whether the QSBS benefits outweigh the potential built-in gains tax. For the CRT approach, it can definitely work alongside a partial sale structure. Your father could contribute some shares to a CRT (getting the income stream and charitable deduction) while selling other shares directly to you and your sister. This hybrid approach lets him diversify his exit strategy while potentially optimizing the overall tax outcome. The key is having your CPA run projections on all these scenarios with your actual numbers. The optimal structure really depends on the business valuation, your father's other income sources, and how much liquidity you need from the transition.

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Ella Cofer

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One strategy worth exploring that combines several approaches mentioned here is a "sale to grantor trust" structure. Your father could sell his shares to an intentionally defective grantor trust (IDGT) that you and your sister establish as beneficiaries. The benefits: your father receives installment payments (helping with his cash flow), the growth in business value happens outside his estate, and he pays the income taxes on the trust's earnings (which is actually a benefit since it further reduces his estate without using gift tax exemptions). Meanwhile, you and your sister effectively own the business through the trust structure. This works particularly well when combined with a small gift component - your father could gift a portion of shares to the trust and sell the remainder, reducing the total purchase price you'd need to finance. The trust can use business distributions to make the installment payments to your father, and since he's paying the trust's taxes as the grantor, more cash stays in the trust to service the debt. This is definitely complex and requires experienced estate planning counsel, but for family business transitions it can be incredibly tax-efficient compared to direct purchase arrangements.

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Sophie Duck

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The grantor trust strategy sounds very sophisticated, but I'm wondering about the practical complexity for a family service business. How difficult is it to maintain compliance with the grantor trust rules over time? And if my father is paying taxes on the trust's income, doesn't that potentially create cash flow issues for him, especially if the business has strong years where distributions are high? Also, with the installment payments coming from business distributions, how do you handle years where the business cash flow might be lower and the trust can't make the full scheduled payment to my father? Is there typically flexibility built into these arrangements, or could that jeopardize the whole structure?

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