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Need assistance with Form 709 Gift Tax: How to complete Schedule A, Part 1 for split gifts?

I've been banging my head against the wall trying to figure out this gift tax stuff. I've read dozens of articles about filling out Form 709, but I'm completely stuck on how to handle split gifts in Schedule A, Part 1. My wife and I want to gift some jointly owned property to our kids, and I have no idea how to report it properly. I've tried reaching out to several CPAs in my area - even offered to pay just for answering my specific questions rather than completing the whole form (since everyone seems swamped this tax season). Got zero responses. Not even a "sorry, too busy." Radio silence. Specifically, I'm confused about jointly held real estate gifts: 1) Do both donors need to be listed in Schedule A, Part 1 on each form? 2) Should one spouse be listed above the line and one below? 3) How do we properly split the value between spouses? If anyone has experience with Form 709 for jointly owned property gifts, I'd really appreciate the help! Getting desperate here with the filing deadline approaching.

You're dealing with one of the more complex areas of gift tax reporting! For jointly held real estate gifts where you're splitting the gift with your spouse, here's how to approach Schedule A, Part 1: Each spouse needs to file their own separate Form 709. On each form, you'll report the entire gift in Part 1 of Schedule A, but you'll only include half the value as taxable. The key is proper documentation of the gift-splitting consent. On each spouse's Form 709, you'll need to complete Schedule A listing the full fair market value of the property being gifted. Then on Part 1, line 2, you'll subtract the amount that represents the other spouse's half. This way, each spouse is only taxed on their half of the gift. The consent section (Part 1 of Form 709) must be completed on both returns, with each spouse consenting to split all qualifying gifts made during the year. Make sure both spouses sign each other's returns in the consent section.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! I'm still confused about one thing though - when you say "list the full fair market value" and then "subtract the amount that represents the other spouse's half" - where exactly on Schedule A, Part 1 does this happen? Is there a specific line for this subtraction? Also, does the property need to be listed twice on each form (once for each spouse's contribution), or just once with some kind of notation?

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On Schedule A, Part 1, you'll list the gift property in Column A with its full description. Then in Column D, you'll enter the full fair market value of the property. In Column E is where you'll subtract your spouse's half - this column is specifically for reporting the value of gifts by spouse. So if the property is worth $500,000, you'd show $500,000 in Column D, and $250,000 in Column E. You only need to list the property once on each form. The key is making sure both you and your spouse file separate Form 709s with the gift-splitting consent sections completed and signed. Each return should indicate the gift is being split, and each spouse should sign the consent section of the other spouse's return.

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I went through this exact same headache last year when gifting some property to my kids. What tripped me up was realizing both spouses need to file separate 709 forms even though we're splitting the gift. Did my own taxes for 30 years but this form is a nightmare. One thing to watch out for: make sure you check the gift-splitting consent box in Part 1 and have your spouse sign the consent section on your form (and vice versa). I messed this up initially and had to file an amended return. Also, keep track of your lifetime exemption. The split gifts count against each spouse's lifetime amount separately.

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Did you have to include any additional documentation when you filed? I've seen conflicting advice about whether you need to attach a copy of the deed or just describe the property on the form.

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You don't need to attach a copy of the deed to Form 709, but you do need to provide a thorough description of the property in Schedule A. I included the full property address, approximate square footage, and a brief description of the property type (single family home, vacant land, etc.). What I did attach was a letter explaining the valuation method I used, along with a copy of the appraisal. While not strictly required, my tax preparer recommended this to support the valuation in case of questions. Better to provide too much documentation than too little when it comes to gifts of real estate.

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Just finished dealing with this. I found the most confusing part was column C in Schedule A Part 1 where you have to list donor's adjusted basis. For real estate that's appreciated a lot, this number can be WAY different from the FMV you're reporting. Make sure you have good records of what you originally paid + any capital improvements. Without that you're just guessing at your basis which could cause problems later. Also heads up - you might need to file a state gift tax return too depending on where you live. I had to file in Connecticut and that was a whole separate headache.

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Is the basis really that important for gift tax purposes? I thought gift tax was calculated based on the fair market value, not the basis. Isn't the basis only relevant for the recipient when they eventually sell the property?

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You're right that gift tax is calculated on fair market value, but the IRS still requires you to report the donor's adjusted basis in Column C of Schedule A. This information is used for several purposes - it helps the IRS verify the gift value makes sense, and more importantly, it establishes the carryover basis for the recipient. When someone receives gifted property, they generally take the donor's basis (carryover basis), not the fair market value at the time of gift. So if you paid $200K for property now worth $500K, the recipient's basis for future capital gains calculations would be your $200K basis plus any gift tax paid. The IRS needs this information on the form even though it doesn't affect the current gift tax calculation. It's definitely worth getting the basis right since it affects the recipient's tax situation down the road when they sell.

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I went through a similar nightmare with Form 709 last year! One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything before filling out the actual form. I made columns for: property description, full FMV, my basis, spouse's portion, and my portion. For the split gift reporting, remember that even though you're each filing separate 709s, the gift splitting election applies to ALL gifts made during the tax year by either spouse - not just this one property. So if either of you made any other gifts during the year (even small ones), those need to be reported consistently with the splitting election. Also, double-check that you're using the correct annual exclusion amounts. For 2024, it's $18,000 per recipient ($36,000 if splitting), but make sure you're using the right year's limits for when the gift was actually made. The deadline stress is real, but you've got this! The IRS is generally reasonable about gift tax issues if you make a good faith effort to comply.

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That spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I wish I had thought of that before diving into the form. One question about the gift splitting election - if we made a small cash gift to our son earlier in the year (like $5,000), does that really need to be reported on the 709 even though it's well under the annual exclusion? I was under the impression that gifts under the exclusion amount didn't need to be reported at all. Also, thanks for the reminder about using the correct year's exclusion amounts. I almost used 2025 numbers by mistake since that's when I'm filing. The actual gift was made in December 2024, so I need the 2024 limits. The deadline stress is definitely getting to me, but seeing everyone's helpful responses here is giving me hope that I can figure this out!

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