Need assistance negotiating tax penalties with IRS - not eligible for offer in compromise - seeking consultant recommendations
I'm in a really tough spot and could use some guidance. I'm dealing with IRS debt in the upper six figures, and I've hit a wall with my options. I've got too much equity tied up in my house to qualify for an offer in compromise, but with today's interest rates, refinancing would be financial suicide. My income situation is shaky given the current economic climate, plus I've got two kids heading to college soon that I need to support. I'm completely willing to liquidate most or all of my investment portfolio to tackle the majority of my back taxes. What I'm hoping for is some way to negotiate down the penalties and interest that have accumulated. My current CPA is great with normal tax stuff but freely admits he doesn't have experience negotiating with the IRS in situations like mine. I've already had consultations with Optima and a couple other tax relief companies, but after reading reviews online, I'm hesitant to move forward with any of them. Does anyone have recommendations for reputable consultants or firms that could actually help me negotiate with the IRS? I'm genuinely committed to getting my financial situation straightened out, but I'm completely lost on where to start with something of this magnitude.
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Malik Jackson
This is definitely a complex situation, but you have options. First, even though an offer in compromise isn't available to you, you might want to look into an installment agreement with the IRS. While the standard installment plans require full payment, there are partial payment installment agreements (PPIA) that could potentially work for your situation, especially with uncertain income. If you're willing to liquidate investments to cover most of the tax debt, you might consider approaching the IRS with a good-faith partial payment and request penalty abatement separately. The IRS has a First Time Penalty Abatement program if this is your first tax issue. Even if it's not, you can request abatement for reasonable cause. Don't immediately dismiss your home equity - you might consider a partial equity extraction through a HELOC rather than a full refinance, which could give you negotiating leverage without resetting your entire mortgage at current rates. Instead of tax relief companies (which often charge enormous fees with limited results), I'd recommend looking for a tax attorney who specializes in tax controversy work or an Enrolled Agent with specific IRS negotiation experience. The key is finding someone who deals directly with the IRS Collections division regularly.
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Isabella Costa
•Thanks for this detailed reply. Quick question - if I go the PPIA route, what kind of documentation will I need to provide? And typically how long do these agreements last? I'm concerned about having this debt hanging over my head for years.
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Malik Jackson
•For a Partial Payment Installment Agreement, you'll need to provide full financial disclosure through Form 433-A (individuals) or 433-B (businesses). This includes bank statements, investment accounts, property information, monthly income/expenses, and other assets. The IRS uses this to determine your "reasonable collection potential." PPIAs typically last until the collection statute expiration date, which is generally 10 years from assessment date. However, the IRS reviews these agreements every two years to see if your financial situation has improved. If it has, they may increase your payment amount or require full payment if your ability to pay has significantly improved.
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StarSurfer
After struggling with a similar situation (though mine was lower - mid five figures), I found incredible help using taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) to analyze my tax documents and financial situation. What made the difference for me was understanding exactly what negotiation options were realistically available based on my specific circumstances. The platform helped me organize all my financial documentation and identified specific penalty abatement opportunities that applied to my situation. I was surprised to learn that specific elements of my case qualified for abatement under "reasonable cause" provisions I didn't know existed. The detailed analysis made it clear which relief options were realistic versus which ones would be denied based on my financial profile. The report they generated helped me understand exactly why I wasn't eligible for an OIC while suggesting alternative approaches that would actually work with my financial situation. It saved me from wasting money on consultants who would have led me down impossible paths.
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StarSurfer
•I did end up hiring a tax attorney, but the analysis made that process much more efficient and cost-effective. The attorney didn't have to spend billable hours figuring out my situation from scratch, and I was able to approach negotiations with specific goals rather than general anxiety. Online tools definitely have limitations compared to in-person consultations. The key difference is that taxr.ai isn't trying to replace professional advice - it helps you understand your situation first so you can make informed decisions. My attorney actually commented that having this analysis upfront saved me several thousand dollars in legal fees because we could focus immediately on execution rather than discovery and assessment.
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Ravi Malhotra
•Did you end up hiring a tax professional after using the service, or were you able to handle the negotiations yourself with the information they provided? I'm trying to figure out if I need both services or if the analysis would be enough.
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Freya Christensen
•I'm skeptical about these online tools. How does it compare to just sitting down with a tax attorney? I've heard horror stories about people using online services and then getting rejected by the IRS anyway.
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Emma Thompson
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Ravi Malhotra
Just wanted to follow up after trying taxr.ai based on the recommendation here. It was seriously eye-opening! The analysis showed that while I couldn't qualify for an OIC (which I knew), I had strong grounds for penalty abatement under a specific IRS clause due to some medical circumstances that affected my filing. The document analysis identified that I'd actually overpaid in one tax year that hadn't been properly credited to my account. I took this information to a tax attorney who was impressed with how organized everything was. We're now in the process of negotiating with the IRS and have already gotten about $42,000 in penalties removed! I'm still going to have to pay a significant amount, but having that clear roadmap of what relief I could realistically pursue versus what would be denied saved me from making costly mistakes. If you're dealing with complex tax debt issues, definitely worth checking out before you commit to any specific approach.
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Omar Hassan
For what it's worth, I was in a similar situation last year (owed about $280K), and the most frustrating part was just trying to get someone at the IRS on the phone who could actually help. I spent DAYS on hold, only to get disconnected or transferred to the wrong department. It was maddening. Eventually I used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) which got me through to an actual IRS agent within about 20 minutes. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Once I actually got through to a human being at the IRS, I was able to set up a meeting with a revenue officer who walked me through my options. We ended up working out a PPIA where I liquidated some assets and set up payments for the remainder. I was surprised at how reasonable they were once I could actually speak to someone with authority to help. Before that, I wasted thousands with one of those tax relief companies that advertise on the radio. They took my money and basically just filed for extensions that I could have done myself.
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Chloe Robinson
•How exactly does this service work? Do they just keep calling for you until they get through or what? Seems strange that there's a service just to make phone calls.
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Diego Chavez
•Yeah right. There's no way to get through to the IRS that quickly. I've tried literally everything and the shortest wait I ever had was 3 hours. This sounds like a scam to me.
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Omar Hassan
•It works by utilizing their callback system. When you call into Claimyr, they navigate the IRS phone tree and secure a spot in the callback queue, then transfer that callback to your phone number. It's completely legitimate - they're essentially using technology to navigate the system more efficiently than a regular person can. They actually don't make calls for you - they secure a place in line and then the IRS calls YOU directly. I was skeptical too until I tried it. The time savings alone was worth it because I could keep working instead of sitting on hold for hours. And speaking directly with an IRS agent made a huge difference in resolving my situation compared to going through intermediaries.
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Diego Chavez
I need to eat some crow here. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr anyway out of desperation. I'd been trying to reach the IRS for WEEKS about my case. I'm completely shocked to report that I had an IRS agent on the phone within 30 minutes. Not only that, but I was able to speak with someone in the right department who could actually address my specific situation. The agent walked me through setting up a streamlined installment agreement and explained how I could submit a separate request for penalty abatement. They also flagged that one of my payments hadn't been properly applied to my account, which was causing some of the penalties to be higher than they should have been. I've spent the last three months stressing about this situation and making zero progress. Now I have everything in writing and a clear path forward. Sometimes being proven wrong is the best possible outcome!
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NeonNebula
Have you considered working with a tax advocate? The Taxpayer Advocate Service is an independent organization within the IRS that helps taxpayers resolve problems and recommends changes to prevent future issues. Best part - their service is free. They won't negotiate on your behalf, but they can help make sure your case is handled fairly and that you understand all your options. Given the complexity of your situation, having an advocate might help navigate the IRS bureaucracy more effectively.
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Emma Thompson
•I've heard of the Taxpayer Advocate Service, but wasn't sure if they'd be able to help with something of this magnitude. Do you have experience working with them on large tax debts? I'm willing to try anything at this point.
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NeonNebula
•I've worked with them on a case involving about $120K in tax debt, so while not quite as high as yours, it was still substantial. The key thing to understand is that they won't directly negotiate your tax debt down, but they can be extremely helpful if you're experiencing significant hardship or if there are procedural issues with how the IRS is handling your case. For large tax debts like yours, they can be particularly valuable in making sure the IRS is correctly following its own procedures and that you're receiving all the consideration you're legally entitled to. They can also help if you're facing immediate threats like levies or seizures while you're trying to work out a solution.
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Anastasia Kozlov
Has anyone here worked with a specific tax attorney they would recommend? I've been looking at reviews online but it's hard to know who's legitimate versus who just has good marketing.
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Sean Kelly
•I worked with Johnson Tax Law in Chicago and had a really good experience. They specialize in tax resolution and don't make unrealistic promises like some of the big advertised firms. They were upfront about costs and what could realistically be achieved.
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Zara Mirza
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - depending on how old some of your tax debt is, you might be bumping up against the 10-year statute of limitations for IRS collections. Worth checking the dates of your assessments, because anything approaching that timeframe gives you additional leverage in negotiations. Also, if you're liquidating stocks, be careful about the timing to minimize additional tax implications. The last thing you need is a big capital gains hit while trying to resolve existing tax debt.
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Emma Thompson
•That's a great point about the collection statute. Some of this debt is from 2018-2019, so not quite close to the 10-year mark yet. And thank you for the reminder about capital gains - I hadn't even thought about how liquidating stocks would affect this year's taxes. Definitely need to be strategic about that.
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