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Freya Andersen

Need advice for helping international students file their 1040NR at my college

Hey everyone, I've been trying to figure out how to help some of the international student-athletes on my soccer team with their tax returns. I'm studying accounting at college and a bunch of my teammates have been asking me for tax help since they're not from the US. From what I've researched so far about the 1040NR (nonresident alien tax return), I understand that unless they arrived in the US before 2021, they probably can't pass the substantial presence test. Many of them are on F-1 visas and are really confused about what they need to file. I know there are special rules for scholarships and income reporting for international students. Some of them have athletic scholarships, some have part-time campus jobs, and others have stipends. I'm not sure how all of these different income sources get reported on the 1040NR. Has anyone here had experience helping international students with their taxes? What forms do they need besides the 1040NR? Any advice would be super helpful since they're all stressing about the upcoming deadline!

Omar Farouk

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You're doing a great thing helping your teammates! International student taxes are definitely tricky but here's what they need to know: First, you're right about the substantial presence test. Students on F-1 visas are considered "exempt individuals" for the first 5 calendar years in the US, meaning those days don't count toward the substantial presence test. So they'll likely need to file as nonresidents using Form 1040NR. For income reporting, they'll need to distinguish between different types of income. Scholarship money used for tuition and books is generally not taxable, but any portion covering room and board is. Any wages from campus jobs will be reported on a W-2 and should be included on the 1040NR. One thing to watch out for is tax treaties! Many countries have tax treaties with the US that might exempt certain income from US taxation. They'll need to fill out Form 8843 (Statement for Exempt Individuals) and possibly Form 8233 if they qualify for treaty benefits.

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Thanks for the detailed response! I have a few questions: 1. Do they need to file state tax returns too, or just federal? 2. What about the FBAR form? Some of them mentioned having bank accounts back home, and I heard there's some special reporting requirement for foreign accounts.

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Omar Farouk

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They'll likely need to file state tax returns too - it depends on the state's rules for nonresidents who earned income there. Not all states follow the same rules as federal for determining residency, so check your specific state's guidelines. For the FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), yes, they may need to file this if they have foreign financial accounts with a combined value exceeding $10,000 at any point during the year. This is separate from tax filing and is submitted electronically to FinCEN. Additionally, they might need Form 8938 (FATCA reporting) if their foreign assets exceed certain thresholds, though the thresholds are typically higher for those living abroad.

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Chloe Harris

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That sounds helpful but how does it work with the scholarship stuff? I'm helping a student from Brazil and we're confused about which parts of his athletic scholarship are taxable.

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Diego Mendoza

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I'm a bit skeptical about these online tools. How accurate is it with treaty provisions? I worked at the international student office at my university and we saw so many mistakes with self-filing.

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CosmicCadet

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Zara Shah

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Don't forget to tell your teammates about Form 8843! ALL international students on F-1 visas need to file this form even if they had ZERO income. It's super important and often forgotten. Also, many universities have VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) programs that specialize in helping international students. Check if your accounting department or law school runs one - they often have special training for 1040NR preparation.

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Is Form 8843 filed together with the 1040NR or is it submitted separately? And what's the deadline?

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Zara Shah

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Form 8843 is submitted with the 1040NR if the student is also filing a tax return. If they don't need to file a tax return (no income), then Form 8843 is sent by itself to the IRS. The deadline is the same as the regular tax deadline - April 15th (or the extended deadline if they file for an extension). Just make sure they keep copies of everything they submit since international students often need tax filing records for visa renewals or future immigration applications.

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NebulaNomad

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Be careful with athletic scholarships for international students! The tax rules are extra complicated. Some parts might be subject to 30% withholding instead of normal tax rates if they don't qualify for treaty benefits.

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Luca Ferrari

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THIS. The athletic scholarship issue is so important. My university got in trouble because they weren't properly withholding on athletic scholarships for international students. The housing and meal portions are considered taxable income.

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