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Mortgage Interest Deduction with no mortgage - am I missing out?

Our house is completely paid off (thanks to an inheritance from my grandmother), but lately I keep hearing friends and coworkers talking about the tax benefits of their mortgage interest deduction. At our last neighborhood BBQ, my neighbor John was going on about how he's "saving thousands" because of his mortgage interest. Now I'm second-guessing our situation... are we actually LOSING money by not having a mortgage? My wife thinks I'm overthinking this, but I can't shake the feeling we're missing some major tax advantage. We're in the 24% tax bracket if that matters. Is there any way to get this deduction without a mortgage or am I just being ridiculous for wanting a tax benefit on a house that's already fully paid for? Am I crazy for feeling like we're somehow at a disadvantage?

Carmen Reyes

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You're definitely not crazy, but you're also not missing out. The mortgage interest deduction only allows you to deduct interest you actually paid - it's not free money. Think of it this way: if someone pays $10,000 in mortgage interest and they're in your 24% tax bracket, they're saving $2,400 in taxes. But they still paid $7,600 in interest! You paid $0 in interest, so you're actually $7,600 ahead of them. Your friends are essentially saying "I'm giving the bank $10,000 so the government will give me $2,400 back." That's not a great deal. The mortgage interest deduction just reduces the pain of having a mortgage; it doesn't make having a mortgage financially advantageous compared to owning your home free and clear.

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StarSurfer

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Wow, I never thought about it like that. So they're actually still paying a lot more than me, even with the tax break. I guess I was just hearing about the "savings" without thinking about the actual costs they're incurring to get those savings.

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Carmen Reyes

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Exactly! It's a common misconception. They're getting a discount on something you don't have to pay at all. It's like being jealous of someone who got 40% off a $100 item when you already have that item for free. Also worth noting that with the higher standard deduction after the 2017 tax changes, many people don't even benefit from itemizing their mortgage interest anymore unless they have a very large mortgage or lots of other deductions.

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Amara Adeyemi

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Something nobody's mentioned yet: if you're really desperate for tax deductions but don't want to get a mortgage, consider increasing your charitable giving. It's a much better financial move than paying interest to a bank! You get to support causes you care about AND get a tax deduction. Plus you're not enriching a financial institution. Just make sure you donate enough (along with other potential itemized deductions) to exceed the standard deduction amount.

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StarSurfer

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That's actually a really thoughtful suggestion. We do give to our church and a couple local charities already, but hadn't thought about the tax angle. Would bunching donations in alternating years work better to get over the standard deduction threshold?

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Amara Adeyemi

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Yes, bunching donations is exactly what many financial planners recommend! For example, if you normally donate $5,000 per year, you could instead donate $10,000 every other year. This might push you over the standard deduction threshold in donation years (when you itemize) while taking the standard deduction in off years. Another option is a Donor Advised Fund, where you contribute a larger amount in one year for the tax deduction, but distribute the actual donations to charities over multiple years. This gives you the tax benefit immediately while allowing you to support charities gradually.

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My accountant actually laughed when I asked this same question last year lol. She said getting a mortgage for the tax deduction is like buying something you don't need just because it's on sale - you're still spending money unnecessarily! She also pointed out that with the higher standard deduction now ($27,700 for married filing jointly in 2023), many people don't even benefit from the mortgage interest deduction unless they have a really big mortgage or tons of other itemized deductions. You'd need more than $27,700 in itemized deductions for it to even matter.

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Yeah but the standard deduction for 2025 filing season is projected to be over $29,000 for married couples! Makes it even harder to benefit from mortgage interest unless you have a jumbo loan.

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