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Philip Cowan

Is there really a significant tax benefit to keeping my mortgage?

I'm debating whether to completely pay off my mortgage or keep it going just for potential tax benefits. I already understand that mortgage interest is deductible, so no need to explain that basic concept. Here's what's confusing me - throughout the years I've had my mortgage, it seems to have ZERO impact on my taxes. When I use TurboTax, whether I include $0 or $15K in mortgage interest, it doesn't change my refund or amount owed at all. Not one penny difference! This makes me wonder if there's actually any tax benefit whatsoever to having a mortgage in my situation. I've also heard rumors that having a mortgage can help with deductions if you own rental properties. But based on my experience above, I'm skeptical. Are there ACTUALLY legitimate tax benefits to keeping a mortgage? Like, real benefits that will actually show up in my tax return? Or is this just one of those financial myths everyone repeats?

Caesar Grant

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The mortgage interest deduction only helps if you itemize deductions on Schedule A instead of taking the standard deduction. Since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act nearly doubled the standard deduction (it's $13,850 for single filers and $27,700 for married filing jointly in 2023), many fewer people benefit from itemizing. If your total itemized deductions (mortgage interest, state/local taxes up to $10K, charitable contributions, etc.) don't exceed your standard deduction amount, then you're right - the mortgage interest has zero effect on your taxes. For rental properties, it's completely different though. Mortgage interest on rental properties is a business expense deducted on Schedule E, not an itemized deduction. So rental property mortgage interest reduces your taxable rental income regardless of whether you itemize or take the standard deduction for your personal taxes.

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Lena Schultz

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So does that mean if I'm married and our total itemized deductions are like $25k, we're still better off taking the standard deduction of $27,700? And if that's the case, would I actually save more in taxes by just paying off the mortgage completely since the interest isn't actually providing any benefit?

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Caesar Grant

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Yes, in your scenario if your itemized deductions total $25k, you'd be better off taking the standard deduction of $27,700 since it's higher. You'd save $2,700 more in deductions that way. Regarding paying off your mortgage, from a purely tax perspective, if the interest isn't providing any deduction benefit, then yes, you wouldn't be losing any tax advantage by paying it off. But remember that mortgage decisions should consider other factors too - your interest rate, investment opportunities for that cash, emergency funds, etc. The tax aspect is just one piece of the puzzle.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Mae Bennett

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Does it work for rental properties too? I have both a primary residence and two rental properties, and I'm always confused about how the mortgage interest works differently for each.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you're in a high property tax state like NJ, NY or CA, the $10k SALT cap (State And Local Tax deduction limit) really affects whether mortgage interest helps you. My property taxes alone are $14k, but I can only deduct $10k of that. So even with $12k in mortgage interest, my itemized deductions barely exceed the standard deduction for married filing jointly. Before the 2017 tax law changes, having a mortgage was a no-brainer tax benefit for most homeowners. Now it really depends on your specific situation.

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Philip Cowan

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered! My property taxes are around $8k, and with state income tax on top of that, I'm definitely hitting that $10k SALT cap. Maybe that's partly why my mortgage interest doesn't seem to be helping at all with my taxes. Would you say it made sense for you to keep your mortgage or are you considering paying it off too?

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I'm in a similar position to you - considering whether to keep or pay off my mortgage. For me, the math works out that I'm getting very minimal tax benefit from the mortgage interest. I'm getting maybe a $1,000 extra deduction from itemizing versus taking the standard deduction. At a 24% tax bracket, that's saving me about $240 in taxes while I'm paying far more in interest. I'm actually planning to pay off a significant chunk of my mortgage this year. Not the whole thing, but enough to reduce my interest to the point where I'll just take the standard deduction going forward. The psychological benefit of having a much smaller mortgage outweighs the tiny tax advantage for me.

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Reina Salazar

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Remember that even if mortgage interest isn't giving you a tax benefit now, if interest rates rise and your income increases, that could change in the future. I've seen ppl pay off mortgages then regret it when their tax situation changed a few years later and they could have benefited from the deduction. Also don't forget about inflation! $300k debt today will feel like much less in 15-20 years with normal inflation.

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That's actually a really good point about inflation. I never thought about it that way. $300k today will be worth a lot less in purchasing power 20 years from now, but you're still paying it back with those cheaper future dollars.

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