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Making the switch from sole proprietorship to S-corp: how to time it for cleaner bookkeeping

Hey everyone! I'm planning to transition from my sole proprietorship to an S-corporation starting January 1, 2025, and I'm hoping to avoid bookkeeping nightmares. In my ideal scenario, I'd have a super clean transition where I only file Schedule C for the 2024 tax year (no corporate return needed) and then only file the corporate return for 2025. A business advisor mentioned this might actually be possible if I create the LLC now but submit Form 2553 to make the S-Corp election effective starting in 2025. Does that sound right to the tax folks here? If I follow this approach, would I qualify as a disregarded single-member LLC that doesn't need to file separate tax forms under the LLC's EIN for 2024 (just Schedule C), and then switch completely to S-corp filing for 2025? My main goal is avoiding the headache of maintaining separate books and records within a single tax year. Any advice from people who've navigated this transition successfully would be super helpful!

Your plan is spot on! You absolutely can create the LLC now, operate as a disregarded entity for 2024 (filing only Schedule C on your personal return), and then have the S-corporation election take effect on January 1, 2025. Here's how it works: When you form a single-member LLC, it's automatically treated as a disregarded entity for federal tax purposes unless you elect otherwise. This means all business income and expenses flow through to your personal tax return via Schedule C - exactly like your current sole proprietorship. When you file Form 2553 to elect S-corporation status, you can specify the effective date. If you specify January 1, 2025, then you'll only file S-corporation returns (Form 1120-S) for 2025 and beyond. Just make sure you file Form 2553 within the deadline - no more than 2 months and 15 days after your requested effective date, or any time during the preceding tax year. So you could file it anytime in 2024 to make it effective for January 1, 2025.

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Thanks for explaining this! I've been trying to figure this out too. Question - do you need to get a new EIN when you create the LLC, or can you keep using your sole prop EIN until the S-corp election takes effect?

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Yes, you'll need to get a new EIN when you create the LLC, even though it will initially be a disregarded entity. While a sole proprietorship can use your SSN for tax purposes, an LLC should have its own EIN, and that same EIN will continue to be used when the entity becomes an S-corporation. The EIN application process is straightforward - you can do it online through the IRS website and receive your EIN immediately. Having this separate EIN from the start creates a clean break between your personal finances and your business entity, which will be helpful for the eventual S-corporation transition.

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This sounds interesting but I'm curious - did it give specific advice about reasonable compensation requirements? That's the part that's stressing me out about making the S-corp switch.

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How does this actually work? Like do you just upload your tax forms and business docs? I'm worried about privacy since my documents have sensitive info.

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One thing to consider with your timing - keep in mind that when you switch to S-corp, you'll need to setup payroll and start paying yourself a "reasonable salary" with proper payroll taxes. This means setting up quarterly payroll tax filings, potentially state unemployment accounts, workers comp, etc. I did the same transition last year and wish someone had warned me about all the extra administrative work. It's not just the tax forms that change - it's a whole new way of running your business finances!

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What payroll service do you recommend for a single-person S-corp? I'm planning to make the switch too but worried about the payroll complexity.

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I use Gusto for my single-member S-corp payroll and absolutely love it. It automatically handles all federal and state tax filings, does direct deposit, and even integrates with my accounting software. It's a bit pricier than some basic options at around $45/month plus $6 per person, but the time it saves me is absolutely worth it. Some other options that friends use are SurePayroll and OnPay which are similar but might be a bit less expensive. If you're super budget-conscious, there's also PayrollForAmerica which is more barebones but gets the job done for very small S-corps. The most important thing is finding one that automatically handles all the tax filings so you don't have to worry about missing deadlines.

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Late to the party but wanted to add something important: If you already have business assets in your sole proprietorship (equipment, vehicles, etc.), make sure you properly document transferring these to the new LLC/S-corp. This is called a Section 351 transfer, and if done correctly, it's tax-free. Keep good records of the fair market value of everything you transfer! The IRS loves to audit new S-corps that don't handle this part correctly.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I have about $22,000 in equipment (computers, specialized tools, etc). Is there a specific form I need to file for this Section 351 transfer, or just good documentation?

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You don't need to file a specific form for the Section 351 transfer, but you absolutely need solid documentation. Create a written bill of sale or asset transfer agreement between yourself and the new entity listing each asset and its fair market value. For assets worth more than a few thousand dollars, consider getting an independent appraisal to support the values. Also document the equity you receive in exchange (membership interest in the LLC/stock in the S-corp). Your operating agreement or corporate bylaws should reflect that these assets were contributed as part of your initial capitalization.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed planning I wish I had done! Your timeline approach is really smart - creating that clean break between tax years will definitely make your bookkeeping much simpler. One additional tip from my own transition: Start keeping separate books for the LLC immediately once you form it, even though you'll still be filing Schedule C for 2024. This means opening a dedicated business checking account under the LLC's EIN and routing all business income/expenses through it. When January 1, 2025 rolls around and your S-corp election kicks in, you'll already have clean, separate financial records to work with. Also consider setting aside some cash now for the additional costs that come with S-corp status - you'll need payroll processing, potentially quarterly tax filings, and maybe a more robust accounting system. But the tax savings usually more than make up for these added expenses once your profits hit the right threshold. Good luck with the transition - sounds like you've got a solid plan!

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This is such helpful advice about keeping separate books from day one! I'm actually in a similar situation planning my transition and hadn't thought about opening the dedicated business account right when I form the LLC. Quick question - when you mention setting aside cash for the additional S-corp costs, what kind of annual budget should someone expect for things like payroll processing and accounting software? I want to make sure I'm financially prepared for all the extra administrative expenses before I make the jump. Also, did you find that having that separate financial tracking from the start made your first S-corp tax filing much smoother?

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