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Noah Lee

Letter 3064C about deferred employer's Social Security taxes - am I personally responsible for paying this?

I just got a letter 3064C in the mail about "deferred payment of employer's share of Social Security taxes" and I'm completely confused. The letter makes it sound like I need to pay this, but it specifically mentions "employer's share" which has me worried. I run a small handyman business that I started in 2020, and I've been filing Schedule C for the past few years. I'm the only employee (self-employed), and I've never had to deal with this kind of notice before. The letter mentions something about CARES Act provisions that allowed deferring these payments, but I don't remember ever opting into anything like that. I'm really worried because the amount they're asking for is around $3,800, which is a lot for me right now. Can anyone help me understand if I'm actually on the hook for this "employer's share" payment even though I'm self-employed? The letter gives a due date just 3 weeks from now.

Ava Hernandez

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This relates to a COVID relief measure from 2020. If you're self-employed (Schedule C), you actually wear two hats for tax purposes - you're both the employee and the employer. The CARES Act allowed employers (including self-employed individuals) to defer payment of the employer portion of Social Security taxes for certain periods in 2020. As a self-employed person, you pay both halves of the Social Security tax (the employee portion and the employer portion) through self-employment tax. The CARES Act allowed deferral of the employer portion (6.2%) of Social Security tax. If you took this deferral (either knowingly or your tax preparer did it for you), you would now be required to pay it back according to the terms. The 3064C letter is the IRS reminding you that this deferred amount is now due. Unfortunately, if you filed as self-employed and the deferral was taken, you are indeed responsible for this amount since you're considered both the employer and employee for tax purposes.

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So if OP was a single-member LLC or sole proprietor filing Schedule C, they're still considered the "employer" for this purpose? What if they didn't intentionally defer these taxes? Could their tax software have automatically applied this deferral without them realizing it?

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Ava Hernandez

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Yes, single-member LLCs and sole proprietors filing Schedule C are considered both employer and employee for self-employment tax purposes. This is why they pay both halves of the Social Security/Medicare taxes, which together make up the self-employment tax. It's entirely possible their tax software or preparer applied the deferral automatically in 2020 as it was a beneficial COVID relief option. Many tax preparation programs defaulted to taking advantageous deferrals and credits during the pandemic. The taxpayer might not have even noticed this deferral was applied since it would have just reduced their tax payment due at that time.

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Mason Davis

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How long did it take to get your answer? I just got a similar letter and I'm freaking out because my deadline is coming up quick. And do they help with actually setting up the payment plan or just tell you how to do it?

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Mason Davis

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Ethan Clark

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Just to add some clarification on the employer's share of Social Security taxes: For self-employed folks, you pay both the employer (6.2%) and employee (6.2%) portions of Social Security tax, plus Medicare tax (2.9%). This totals 15.3% on your net earnings. The CARES Act allowed businesses (including self-employed people) to defer the EMPLOYER portion (6.2%) of Social Security tax on wages paid from March 27, 2020 through December 31, 2020. Half was due by December 31, 2021, and the other half is due by December 31, 2022. If you're getting the letter now, it's likely for that second payment that's coming due. Check your 2020 tax return - specifically look at Schedule SE and Form 1040 to see if there's an entry for "deferred self-employment tax" - that would confirm the deferral was taken.

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Mila Walker

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What if you can't pay the full amount? My brother got this letter too and he definitely can't pay the $5k they're asking for right now. Does the IRS offer payment plans for this specific type of tax debt?

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Ethan Clark

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Yes, the IRS definitely offers payment plans for this type of tax debt, just like any other tax you might owe. For amounts under $50,000, you can easily set up an online payment agreement through the IRS website. For smaller amounts like $5,000, your brother could get up to 72 months to pay it off in installments. There's a small setup fee (around $31 if he sets it up online with direct debit), and he'll continue to accrue some interest, but the penalties are much reduced once you're on a payment plan. He should set this up as soon as possible though, even before the due date, to minimize additional penalties.

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Logan Scott

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Has anyone successfully gotten this tax forgiven or reduced? I'm a single parent and was self-employed in 2020 during the pandemic just trying to keep my family afloat. Now they're hitting me with this huge bill for taxes I didn't even know were deferred.

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Chloe Green

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Unfortunately, these deferred taxes can't be forgiven - they were just postponed, not eliminated. But you might qualify for a payment plan as others have mentioned, which could make it more manageable. Also check if you qualify for first-time penalty abatement if there are penalties attached.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! As a self-employed person, you ARE responsible for paying this because when you're self-employed, you're considered both the employer and employee for tax purposes. The "employer's share" refers to the 6.2% Social Security tax that was deferred under the CARES Act. Here's what likely happened: When you (or your tax preparer) filed your 2020 taxes, the deferral was automatically applied to reduce what you owed at that time. This was actually beneficial then, but now that deferred amount is coming due. Don't panic about the 3-week deadline - you have options! You can set up a payment plan directly with the IRS online if you can't pay the full $3,800 at once. For amounts under $50,000, you can get up to 72 months to pay it off. The setup fee is only about $31 if you do it online with automatic payments. Check your 2020 tax return (specifically Schedule SE) to confirm the deferral was taken. And definitely don't ignore this - the sooner you address it, the better your options will be. Payment plans stop most penalties from accumulating, which saves you money in the long run.

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