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Kiddie Tax Question - I'm 23 and File as Independent, Why Am I Getting This?

So I'm really confused about this whole kiddie tax situation. I'm 23 years old, have been filing as independent for the last few years since I graduated college. I work full-time as a marketing coordinator making about $58,000/year. Last year I inherited some investments from my grandmother that generated about $3,400 in unearned income. I just started working on my taxes and TurboTax is saying something about "kiddie tax" applying to me? I thought this was only for children under 18 or students under 24 who are dependents. I definitely file my own taxes, pay all my own bills, and haven't been claimed as a dependent by my parents since I was 20. I'm not a student anymore either. Am I missing something here? Has anyone dealt with this before? It's saying I might owe more taxes on this investment income, but everything I'm reading online makes it seem like this shouldn't apply to me.

You're right to be confused - the kiddie tax shouldn't apply to you in this situation. The kiddie tax applies to children under 18, or full-time students under 24 who can be claimed as dependents. Since you're 23, independent, working full-time, and not a student, you're outside the kiddie tax requirements. What's probably happening is that TurboTax's algorithm got confused because you have unearned income and are under 24. The software sometimes asks questions in a sequence that can lead to incorrect assumptions. I'd recommend going back and double-checking how you answered the dependency questions in TurboTax. Your inheritance investment income should be taxed at your normal tax rates, not the kiddie tax rates. The kiddie tax is designed to prevent parents from shifting investment income to their dependent children to lower the family's overall tax liability.

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That makes so much sense, thank you! I was worried I was missing something obvious. So if I go back and make sure I've correctly indicated that I'm not a dependent and haven't been claimed by anyone else, the kiddie tax part should go away?

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Yes, exactly! Go back and review the personal information section in TurboTax where it asks about your filing status and dependency. Make sure you've clearly indicated that no one can claim you as a dependent and that you're not a full-time student. Once you correct that information, the kiddie tax calculation should disappear. If for some reason the software still tries to apply the kiddie tax after you've reviewed and corrected your inputs, you might need to try a different section of the program or consider reaching out to TurboTax support to help resolve the specific glitch in their system.

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I went through the exact same thing last year! I was also getting flagged for kiddie tax at 22 despite being independent. Turns out it was because I answered a question wrong in TurboTax about whether I was a full-time student for at least 5 months of the year. I had checked "yes" because I graduated in May, but since I was independent it didn't matter. After struggling with it for hours, I discovered https://taxr.ai which scanned my tax documents and immediately identified the problem. Their AI pointed out exactly which form fields were triggering the kiddie tax incorrectly. Saved me from overpaying nearly $600 in taxes because of a software error!

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I'm a bit skeptical about using some random AI for tax stuff. How do you know it's giving accurate information? Couldn't this just make things worse if it gives bad advice?

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If you're still having trouble with TurboTax after fixing the dependency issue, you might need to call the IRS directly to clarify your situation. I had to do this last year for a similar issue and they were actually pretty helpful. The problem is actually getting through to a human at the IRS - I spent 3 days trying before I found https://claimyr.com which got me connected in about 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours. They have a cool demo of how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent confirmed that the kiddie tax definitely shouldn't apply if you're 23, not a dependent, and not a student. They helped me understand exactly what to tell TurboTax to fix the issue.

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Just a heads up - the kiddie tax rules can be REALLY confusing because there are multiple criteria that all have to be met. Here's a simple breakdown: The kiddie tax applies if: 1. You're under 18, OR 2. You're 18-23 AND a full-time student AND provide less than half of your own support (dependent) Since you're 23, working full-time, and support yourself, you're definitely exempt. Your investment income should just be taxed at your normal rates.

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Quick question - what if you're 22, a full-time student for part of the year, but you provide more than half of your own support? Does kiddie tax still apply then?

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In that situation, the kiddie tax would not apply to you. Even though you're under 24 and were a full-time student for part of the year, the fact that you provide more than half of your own support means you fail one of the required criteria for the kiddie tax. The "support test" is really important here - if you're paying more than 50% of your own living expenses (rent, food, clothing, education, medical, etc.), then you're providing your own support and the kiddie tax doesn't apply regardless of your student status.

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I actually work at an accounting firm and see this all the time. Tax software often applies rules without proper context. The kiddie tax is specifically designed to prevent wealthy parents from avoiding taxes by putting investments in their kids' names. For anyone dealing with this issue: Make sure to carefully review ALL the personal information sections and dependency questions. Sometimes it takes going through the interview questions multiple times to get the right outcome.

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Thanks for the insider perspective! Is there any specific section in TurboTax I should look at? I've gone through the personal info part twice but maybe I'm missing something.

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You want to look specifically at the "Personal Info" section, but don't just check the main questions. Click on "Review" or "Revisit" for that section and go through every sub-question. Pay close attention to any questions about: - Student status (make sure it correctly shows you're not a full-time student) - Support (confirm you provide more than half of your own support) - Dependent status (verify no one can claim you as a dependent) Sometimes there are follow-up questions that appear based on your answers that aren't obvious at first. If you still can't find it after checking these areas, try the "Investment Income" section as well - there might be a specific question there about kiddie tax that's being triggered incorrectly.

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This is such a common confusion with tax software! I went through something similar when I was 24 and had some dividend income from stocks my grandfather left me. The software kept trying to apply kiddie tax even though I was clearly independent. What really helped me was understanding that the kiddie tax has very specific requirements - it's not just about age or having investment income. You have to meet ALL the criteria, and since you're supporting yourself and not claimed as a dependent, you definitely don't qualify. One thing I learned is that sometimes the order you answer questions in tax software matters. If you mention investment income early in the process, it might flag you for kiddie tax before it gets all your personal details. Try starting a fresh return if the dependency corrections don't work - sometimes that clears out any logic errors the software made early on. Your $3,400 in investment income will just be taxed at your regular marginal tax rate along with your salary income. Much better than the kiddie tax rates which can be quite high!

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This is really helpful advice about starting fresh! I never thought about the order of questions affecting the software's logic. That makes total sense - if it sees investment income first, it might jump to conclusions before getting the full picture of my situation. I'm definitely going to try the fresh return approach if my current fixes don't work. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing. The idea that my inheritance will just be taxed at my normal rate is such a relief - I was getting worried I'd owe way more than expected. Thanks for breaking down the "ALL criteria must be met" part too. That really clarifies why the software is wrong in my case.

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I had this exact same issue when I was 22! Tax software can be really buggy with these edge cases. What worked for me was going into the "Federal Taxes" section, then "Wages & Income," and looking specifically for an "Investment Income" or "Other Income" subsection. There's usually a question buried in there that asks something like "Are you subject to kiddie tax?" or "Should this investment income be subject to special rules?" Make sure that's answered correctly based on your actual situation (which is NO for both questions in your case). Also double-check that when you entered your W-2 information, you didn't accidentally mark yourself as a dependent or student somewhere. Sometimes those checkboxes get selected by mistake and the software carries that assumption through the entire return. The good news is your $3,400 inheritance income really should just be added to your regular income and taxed at your normal bracket. At $58k salary, you're probably in the 22% bracket, so that investment income would be taxed at 22% too - way better than kiddie tax rates which can go up to 37%!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed walkthrough I needed! I've been struggling with this for days and your step-by-step approach makes so much sense. I'm going to check that "Investment Income" subsection right now - I bet there's a question in there that I missed or answered wrong. You're absolutely right about double-checking the W-2 section too. I might have accidentally clicked something when I was rushing through that part. It's so frustrating how one small mistake can mess up your entire return calculation. The tax rate comparison is really reassuring - 22% vs potentially 37% is a huge difference! I was getting stressed thinking I might owe way more than I should. Thanks for taking the time to break this down so clearly.

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