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Ava Hernandez

Is it possible to recover tax returns from 50 years ago (1974/1975)?

I'm working on an application for my dad that requires proof he lived in the USA specifically during 1974/1975. I thought maybe getting copies of his old tax returns from those years might be the easiest way to prove residency. Has anyone ever tried to get tax records that are this old (like 50 years)? Is there any way to request copies or get some kind of proof that he filed taxes back then? Any suggestions would be really helpful since I'm not sure where else to look for documentation from that far back. Thanks in advance!

Unfortunately, the IRS only keeps tax returns for about 7 years. For returns older than that, especially ones from the 1970s, you won't be able to get actual copies of the returns. However, you can request something called a "Tax Account Transcript" that might show that your father filed taxes for those years. You'll need to fill out Form 4506-T (Request for Transcript of Tax Return) and check box 8 for "Record of Account." This will show basic account information like filing status and adjusted gross income if they still have records going that far back. Another approach would be to look for other documentation from that time period - old pay stubs, property tax records, utility bills, school records, or Social Security earnings statements which might show work history going back to those years.

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Would Social Security Administration records really go back to the 70s? And how would someone access those? My grandmother needs something similar for an immigration case.

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Yes, the Social Security Administration maintains earnings records for your entire working life, so those records definitely go back to the 1970s. Your father (or grandmother in your case) can request a Social Security Earnings Statement by creating an account at ssa.gov or by completing Form SSA-7004. This statement will show all reported earnings by year throughout their working life, which would establish they were working and living in the US during specific years. The SSA records are actually one of the most reliable ways to prove long-term residence since they're maintained for determining benefit eligibility. They're often more complete than IRS records for very old time periods.

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Sophia Miller

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I went through something similar trying to find proof of residency from the 80s for my mom's pension application. After struggling with the IRS and getting nowhere, I found this service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that was incredibly helpful. They have this tool that can search for archival tax records and documentation that most people don't know how to access. I uploaded the information we had (her name, SSN, approximate years) and they were able to find evidence of her tax filings from 1982-1989 through some database they have access to. It saved us tons of time digging through old boxes in the attic looking for paperwork that probably didn't exist anymore. Might be worth checking out since the regular IRS channels aren't great for stuff this old.

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Mason Davis

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How long did it take for them to find the records? I'm on a bit of a deadline for my citizenship application and need proof from 1979.

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Mia Rodriguez

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Did you have to provide your mom's SSN? I'm trying to help my elderly father with something similar but I'm hesitant to put his SSN on random websites...

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Sophia Miller

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It took about 3 days for them to get back to me with the initial findings. They were able to locate confirmation of filed returns and even found an old W-2 that had been digitized from her employer that we didn't know existed. Yes, I did provide her SSN since that's the main identifier for tax records. I was worried about that too, but they use the same encryption standards as tax preparation services. You could always call them first to verify before submitting anything online if you're concerned.

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Mia Rodriguez

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Just wanted to update that I tried taxr.ai after posting my question and I'm honestly shocked at how well it worked. I was super skeptical about giving my dad's info, so I called them first and felt comfortable after talking to them. They found proof of his employment at Boeing from 1971-1976 including tax withholding records that we had no idea still existed somewhere in the system. They explained that while the actual tax returns are gone, there are multiple databases with partial records that can be pieced together. We just got the documentation yesterday and it's exactly what we needed for his veterans benefits application. Definitely worth checking out if you're trying to prove historical residency or employment.

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Jacob Lewis

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How does this actually work? Seems too good to be true considering I spent 3+ hours on hold last week and never got through.

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Ethan Clark

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Ethan Clark

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Mila Walker

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Another option to consider is checking with state tax agencies. Sometimes state tax records are kept longer or in different systems than federal records. If you know which state your father lived in during 1974-75, try contacting that state's tax authority directly. Also, property records at county clerk offices often go back many decades. If your father owned a home during that time, those records could help establish residency.

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Ava Hernandez

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Thank you for this suggestion! He was in California during those years. Do you know if California's tax records might go back further than the IRS ones? And would I contact the California Franchise Tax Board for this?

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Mila Walker

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Yes, you would contact the California Franchise Tax Board. Their record retention policies can be different from the federal IRS. While I can't guarantee they'll have 50-year-old records, it's definitely worth trying. Another thing to consider is that California maintains voter registration archives that sometimes go back many decades. If your father was registered to vote in California during that time, the Secretary of State's office or the county registrar where he lived might have those records.

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Logan Scott

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Has anyone suggested checking with Social Security? They keep earnings records going back to your first job, and those records show which years someone paid into Social Security. I requested my father's earnings record when helping with his retirement application and was surprised to see it had information going all the way back to his teenage years in the 1960s.

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Chloe Green

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This worked for my citizenship application! Social Security has a form called the SSA-7050 "Request for Social Security Earnings Information" that gives you a detailed certified statement of all earnings on record. It costs about $130 but it's official government documentation that shows every year someone worked in the US and paid taxes.

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Ally Tailer

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I work at a local library and we often help people with genealogy research that involves finding old records. A few additional resources that might help: 1. The National Archives (NARA) sometimes has employment records from federal agencies or contractors that worked on government projects in the 1970s. If your father worked for any federal agency or major defense contractor, they might have personnel records. 2. Many universities keep alumni records going back decades. If your father attended any college or university during that time period, their registrar's office might have enrollment records showing his address. 3. Old phone directories are often archived at local libraries and historical societies. These can show residence addresses by year and are sometimes available online through sites like Ancestry.com. 4. If your father served in the military at any point, his DD-214 discharge papers or military personnel records might reference his civilian address during the 1970s. The combination of Social Security earnings records plus one of these other sources usually provides sufficient proof of residency for most applications. Good luck with your search!

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Ethan Wilson

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This is such helpful information! I never would have thought about old phone directories or university records. My dad did go to UC Berkeley for graduate school around that time, so I'll definitely reach out to their registrar's office. The National Archives suggestion is interesting too - he worked for a company that had some government contracts back then. Do you know if there's a specific way to search NARA records, or do I need to visit in person? Thanks for all these creative ideas!

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AstroAce

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You can search NARA records online through their catalog at catalog.archives.gov, but for employment records from the 1970s you'll likely need to submit a formal records request using form NATF 86. The process can take several months, so if you're on a tight deadline, I'd focus on the quicker options like Social Security records and university alumni records first. NARA also has regional facilities, so you might not need to travel all the way to Washington D.C. - check if there's a regional archive closer to where your dad worked. The librarians at NARA regional facilities are incredibly knowledgeable about what records they have and can often point you toward things you wouldn't find on your own.

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Lauren Wood

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Just wanted to add another resource that helped me in a similar situation - old bank records! If your father had a checking or savings account during that time period, some banks (especially credit unions) keep customer records going back decades. I was able to get statements from a credit union that showed my mother's address and regular deposits from 1976-1978, which proved both residency and employment. You'll need to contact the bank directly and may need to provide a death certificate or power of attorney if you're requesting records for someone else. Some banks charge a fee for historical records research, but it's usually much less expensive than some of the specialized services mentioned here. Also, don't overlook old insurance records - homeowner's, renter's, or auto insurance policies from that era would definitely establish residency. If you know what insurance company your dad used, their records department might be able to help.

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This is brilliant advice! I never thought about insurance records. My dad definitely had car insurance back then - he's always been really careful about that stuff. Do you know if there's a way to find out which insurance company someone used 50 years ago if they don't remember? He's 78 now and his memory isn't what it used to be. Also, would old medical records work the same way? He had a regular doctor during those years who might have kept patient files with addresses.

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