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Carmella Fromis

I'm confused about IRS penalty payment process - help needed!

So I really messed up and totally forgot to pay quarterly taxes on my vacation cabin that I rent out. In the past few years, I was putting so much into fixing it up that I barely broke even after all the repairs and maintenance. Fast forward to this year, and the cabin is finally in great shape and brought in a good amount of rental income. I paid all the taxes (around $12,900) when I filed in April, but then I got hit with a penalty of about $320 for not making those quarterly payments. The penalty notice says I need to pay by June 15. When I went to irs.gov/payments to take care of this penalty, I got confused at the very first screen where you have to select the reason for payment. There are all these different options and I'm not sure which one applies to my situation. I don't want to pick the wrong thing and have my payment not properly applied to the penalty. Has anyone dealt with this before? What option should I select for paying a penalty for failure to make quarterly estimated tax payments? I just want to make sure this gets resolved correctly.

You'll want to select "Tax Return or Notice" as your payment reason, then choose "Estimated Tax" from the next dropdown. Even though you're paying a penalty related to estimated taxes rather than the estimated taxes themselves, this is the correct category. Make sure to include your notice number (should be CP-something at the top of your letter) in the notes/memo section if there's an option for that. This helps ensure your payment is properly credited to your account. The good news is that the penalty is relatively small compared to your total tax, and it's a one-time thing that you can easily avoid in the future by setting up quarterly payments for 2025.

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Thanks for the quick response! I was definitely overthinking this. I don't see any option specifically for penalties so I guess the "Estimated Tax" makes sense. And yes, the notice does have a CP number on it that I can reference. Quick follow-up question - should I be making quarterly payments this year now that I know I need to? How do I figure out how much to pay each quarter?

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Yes, you should definitely be making quarterly payments this year to avoid future penalties. The simplest way to calculate your quarterly payments is to take your total expected tax for the year and divide by 4. If your rental income is relatively stable, you can use last year's tax amount as a guideline. For most taxpayers, paying 100% of last year's tax amount (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000) through quarterly payments will protect you from underpayment penalties, even if you end up owing more when you file. You can make these payments online through IRS Direct Pay or the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS). The remaining quarterly due dates for 2025 are June 15, September 15, and January 15, 2026.

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Don't forget that you can also apply to have the penalty waived if this is your first time being assessed a penalty! The IRS has a First Time Abatement policy that many people don't know about. If you've had a clean tax record for the past 3 years (filed and paid on time), you can often get the penalty removed entirely. Worth a shot before you pay it!

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Whoa, I had no idea about this! How do I apply for the First Time Abatement? Is that something I can do online or do I need to call them?

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You'll need to call the IRS and specifically request a "First Time Penalty Abatement" for your failure to pay estimated taxes. Have your notice handy when you call. The agent will check your compliance history for the past 3 years. If calling seems daunting (which it can be), you can also write a penalty abatement letter and mail it to the address on your notice. Be sure to reference the notice number, explain that this is your first time missing estimated tax payments, and specifically request a "First Time Penalty Abatement" in your letter.

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Just sharing my experience - I messed up my rental property quarterly payments too last year. Used TurboTax this year and they have a feature that helps you calculate your quarterly estimates for next year AND sends you reminders when payments are due. Been super helpful for keeping me on track!

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Does it work if you use a different tax software to actually file your return? I use H&R Block to file but would love something that reminds me about quarterlies.

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