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Aaron Boston

IRS denied large refund despite mailing by 3-year deadline - options to contest?

I sent both my federal and state tax returns via certified mail on the absolute final day of the 3-year deadline (plus extension) to claim my refunds. My state refund came through no problem, but the IRS sent me a denial letter saying they couldn't pay my refund because my return was filed after the deadline. The crazy thing is, they specifically mentioned that the last day to file was the EXACT SAME DAY I mailed it (which I can prove with my certified mail receipt). The letter gave me a window to appeal their decision, but I completely missed that timeframe. It also mentioned I have up to 2 years from the date of their letter to claim the refund, suggesting I'd need to file a lawsuit by then to preserve my claim. I have the receipt showing I mailed it on time - literally on the exact day they say was the deadline. It seems like a clear-cut case where I'd win in court. I think I could even request summary judgment, but I'm not a lawyer and can't afford to hire one out of pocket. Here's what I'm wondering: If I hire a tax attorney to take this to tax court and win, would I be entitled to recover attorney fees and interest? Do tax attorneys typically take on cases like this on contingency when victory seems almost guaranteed? The refund is over $12,000, so I'm definitely not willing to just give up. I was also thinking about sending a letter directly to the appeals department with a copy of my receipt showing timely mailing, and citing the relevant case law about mailbox rule (that the date mailed is considered the filing date). I'd point out that going to court would waste everyone's time and resources. If I go this route, should I also explicitly request interest?

Sophia Carter

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You're absolutely right about the "mailbox rule" - it's clearly established in tax law that the postmark date is considered the filing date for tax returns. The fact that you have certified mail proof showing you mailed it on the deadline day means you have a very strong case. Before going straight to tax court, I would recommend trying the IRS appeals process again, even though you missed the initial window. Send a letter to the appeals department with your evidence and explanation. Include Form 911 (Taxpayer Advocate Service Application) which can help when normal IRS channels aren't working. You should definitely request the interest in your letter - it's automatically required by law if your refund was delayed through no fault of your own. The IRS must pay interest on refunds not issued within 45 days of the filing deadline or the date the return was filed, whichever is later. If the appeals process doesn't work, yes, tax attorneys sometimes take these cases on contingency when the evidence is strong and the amount is substantial. Your $12,000 refund plus interest makes it potentially worthwhile for them.

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Chloe Zhang

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This is super helpful! But I'm wondering if there's some kind of "second chance" appeal process since OP already missed the window mentioned in the denial letter? Also, would including the certified mail receipt be enough evidence or should they gather anything else?

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Sophia Carter

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You can still appeal even after missing the initial window, though it becomes more discretionary. The IRS doesn't widely advertise this, but you can file what's called an "audit reconsideration" which essentially asks them to reexamine their decision based on new information or clarification of existing facts. The certified mail receipt is your strongest piece of evidence. Also include a copy of the denial letter and reference IRC Section 7502, which specifically addresses the timely mailing rule. If you have any related correspondence with the IRS about this matter, include copies of those as well.

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Not sure if this helps, but I had a similar situation a few years back. The key thing I learned is that certified mail gives you proof of MAILING, but not proof of what was INSIDE the envelope. The IRS sometimes argues that even though the envelope was timely, the return inside wasn't complete. Did your denial letter mention anything specific about the contents of your return being incomplete? Sometimes they use that as a technicality. If they're only disputing the mailing date, you have a much stronger case.

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Aaron Boston

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The denial letter only mentioned the filing deadline. There was no mention of incomplete contents - just that they received it after the cutoff date for refunds, even though I mailed it on the exact deadline day they specified. This makes me think it's purely about the timing and not the contents.

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That's actually good news! When they only dispute the timing and not the contents, the mailbox rule applies much more straightforwardly. The courts have consistently upheld that the postmark date is what matters, not when the IRS physically receives or processes it. Since you have certified mail proof with the right date, I think your chances are excellent either through the appeals process or tax court. The IRS knows they'll lose this type of case, so they often settle once they see proper documentation.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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A little shocked nobody mentioned Publication 5, "Your Appeal Rights and How to Prepare a Protest If You Don't Agree." Even though you missed the initial appeal window, you can still file what's called an "audit reconsideration" request. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p5.pdf This is basically asking the IRS to take another look at your case based on new information (or in your case, information they may have overlooked - your certified mail receipt). Mail this to the EXACT address on your denial letter, not to a general IRS address. Include copies (never originals) of your certified mail receipt and a clear explanation citing IRC Section 7502 about timely mailing being timely filing.

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Axel Far

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Does this actually work though? I feel like the IRS just tosses these requests straight in the trash when you've missed the appeal deadline.

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