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Fiona Sand

IRS Penalty of $11,700 on IRA hardship withdrawal - Has anyone dealt with this?

I'm in shock right now. I just received a notice from the IRS slapping me with a $15,300 penalty for what I thought was a legitimate hardship withdrawal from my IRA last year. I was going through a really tough financial period after some unexpected medical expenses, and my financial advisor mentioned that hardship withdrawals might help me avoid the early withdrawal penalties. I took out about $45,000 to cover those bills, thinking I was doing it the right way. Fast forward to yesterday when I got this massive penalty notice in the mail. I literally felt sick to my stomach when I opened it. Apparently there are very specific requirements for what qualifies as a "hardship" that exempts you from penalties, and whatever I did didn't meet those criteria? Has anyone here been through something similar with IRA hardship withdrawals? Did you find any way to appeal or get the penalty reduced? I'm freaking out because there's absolutely no way I can afford to pay this on top of everything else. Never trusting myself to handle retirement account stuff again without triple-checking everything. 😡

This is unfortunately a common misunderstanding. "Hardship withdrawals" and "penalty-free withdrawals" are two different things with IRAs. A hardship withdrawal just means your IRA custodian allows you to take money out for urgent needs, but it doesn't automatically exempt you from the 10% early withdrawal penalty with the IRS. For a Traditional IRA, you'd need to meet one of the specific exceptions like using it for qualified higher education expenses, first-time home purchase (up to $10,000), certain medical expenses exceeding 7.5% of your AGI, or health insurance premiums while unemployed. If your withdrawal was for medical expenses, you might qualify for a partial exemption, but only for the portion that exceeded 7.5% of your adjusted gross income. So if your AGI was $80,000, only medical expenses above $6,000 would potentially qualify for penalty exemption. You should definitely consult with a tax professional about filing Form 5329 to request an exception or abatement due to reasonable cause. The IRS sometimes reduces penalties if you can demonstrate financial hardship and inability to pay.

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Fiona Sand

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Thanks for explaining this. I think that's exactly where I went wrong - I assumed "hardship" automatically meant "penalty-free" when dealing with the IRS. My medical expenses were around $30,000 but my AGI was about $120,000, so I guess only a small portion would have qualified for the exemption anyway. Do you know if I can still file the Form 5329 even though I already filed my taxes for last year? And what exactly counts as "reasonable cause" for the IRS?

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Yes, you can still file Form 5329 separately even after filing your original return. You'd complete the form, check the "reasonable cause" box in Part I, and attach a written explanation of your circumstances. For reasonable cause, the IRS considers factors like whether you exercised ordinary business care but still couldn't comply with tax obligations. Medical emergencies, natural disasters, inability to obtain necessary records, or receiving incorrect advice from a tax professional can qualify. Make your case by detailing the specific hardships you faced, how they prevented you from understanding the rules, and any steps you took to try to comply. Include supporting documentation like medical bills or financial statements showing your situation. Remember that financial hardship alone isn't usually enough - you need to demonstrate why you reasonably believed the withdrawal qualified for an exception.

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Taylor To

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Kevin Bell

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Quick tip from someone who works in retirement planning: Get a Letter of Explanation from your IRA custodian that details why they approved the hardship withdrawal. While this won't guarantee penalty exemption, it can support your reasonable cause argument with the IRS. Also, if any portion of your withdrawal was used for medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of AGI, immediate purchase of your primary residence (up to $10k), higher education expenses, or health insurance premiums while unemployed, be sure to document those specifically. The hardship criteria for employer plans like 401(k)s are different from IRA exceptions. Many people confuse these rules!

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Fiona Sand

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Thanks for this insight. Do you think there's any chance the IRS would consider a full abatement of the penalty? I'm really struggling financially and this penalty is going to put me in an even worse situation.

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Kevin Bell

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Full abatement is rare but not impossible. The IRS does have authority to provide relief in cases of exceptional circumstances. Your best approach would be to: 1) Request abatement based on reasonable cause, clearly documenting why you believed the withdrawal qualified for exception (any advice you received, confusion between 401(k) and IRA rules, etc.) 2) Request abatement based on financial hardship by completing Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement) to demonstrate your current financial situation and inability to pay. If you're already in a difficult financial position, also look into the IRS payment plan options or Offer in Compromise program. Even if they don't waive the penalty entirely, you might be able to settle for a reduced amount or spread payments over time. Document everything thoroughly - the more evidence you provide of both your reasonable belief that the withdrawal was exempt and your current financial hardship, the better your chances.

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