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Katherine Harris

How to structure limited partnership profits: 80% to LP, 20% to GP for tax advantages?

I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to set up a limited partnership where the limited partner (LP) gets most of the profits - say 80%, while the general partner (GP) only gets 20%. I've been doing some research on partnership structures and tax implications, and I know LPs don't have to pay self-employment tax on their distributions. My thought is to make my wife the GP (with the 20% share) and myself the LP (with the 80% share). This way, we could potentially reduce our overall self-employment tax burden since most of the income would flow to me as the LP without SE tax. Is this allowed? Or does the GP always need to have the majority profit share in these arrangements? Just trying to understand if there are any legal requirements around profit distribution percentages between LPs and GPs before we set this up.

Madison Allen

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You absolutely can set up a limited partnership with the LP receiving 80% of profits and the GP receiving 20%. There's no legal requirement that the GP must receive the majority of profits. However, what you're describing sounds like you might be trying to create a partnership solely for tax avoidance purposes, which could be problematic. The IRS looks at the economic substance of arrangements, not just their form. If your wife doesn't have meaningful management responsibilities or capital contributions as the GP, the IRS might view this as a scheme to avoid self-employment taxes. Remember that the GP has unlimited liability for the partnership's debts and obligations, while the LP's liability is limited to their investment. Your wife would be taking on significantly more risk as the GP, so the profit split should reflect a reasonable arrangement given these different roles and responsibilities.

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Joshua Wood

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So what would be considered "meaningful management responsibilities" for the GP? Does the GP need to work a certain number of hours in the business or something? And what about capital contributions - does the GP need to put in a specific percentage of the total capital?

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Madison Allen

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For meaningful management responsibilities, there's no specific hour requirement, but the GP should be genuinely running the business operations - making key decisions, managing day-to-day activities, negotiating with vendors/clients, etc. It should be clear the GP is actually performing substantive work that justifies their position. Regarding capital contributions, there's no fixed percentage requirement. What matters is that the entire arrangement makes economic sense beyond tax savings. The GP typically contributes less capital than LPs but takes on unlimited liability and handles the business management. If your wife has minimal involvement in the business but is named GP just for tax purposes, that's precisely what could trigger IRS scrutiny.

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Daniel Rogers

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that partnership agreements can include special allocations of profits and losses, which means you can distribute profits differently than ownership percentages. But these special allocations must have "substantial economic effect" to be respected by the IRS. This means your allocation must: 1) Actually affect the dollar amount received by the partners 2) Have economic impact beyond just tax savings 3) Be properly documented with capital accounts maintained correctly The "avoid self-employment tax" goal without other business purposes could definitely raise red flags. Have you considered an S-Corp instead? You could pay yourselves reasonable salaries (subject to employment taxes) and take the rest as distributions not subject to SE tax.

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Thanks for bringing up special allocations - I wasn't familiar with that concept or the "substantial economic effect" requirement. What exactly counts as having "economic effect beyond tax savings"? Would things like my wife handling all the management responsibilities as GP while I provide most of the funding as LP qualify? And yes, we've considered an S-Corp too, but I was concerned about the "reasonable salary" requirement. Our business is projected to make around $300k/year, and I wasn't sure what would be considered "reasonable" for our industry (real estate investments).

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Daniel Rogers

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Your wife handling all management responsibilities while you provide funding could potentially create economic effect beyond tax savings, as it reflects the different roles you're playing in the business. Document her actual time spent, decisions made, and management activities to substantiate her role. The key is having her GP role reflect genuine business operations, not just a paper arrangement. For S-Corps in real estate investing with $300k annual income, reasonable salary benchmarks typically range from $60k-$120k depending on location, portfolio size, and actual services performed. The IRS looks at comparable compensation for similar roles in your market. I recommend researching salary surveys for real estate investment managers in your area to establish a defensible figure.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Has anyone used the partnership tax calculator on the IRS website? I tried inputting different profit allocation scenarios, but I'm not sure if I'm using it correctly. I also heard that different states have different rules about partnership structures - does anyone know if that's true?

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Ella Russell

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The IRS calculator is pretty basic and doesn't account for complex allocations. I'd recommend the tools at business.gov instead - they're more comprehensive. And yes, states definitely have different rules! California is particularly strict with partnership structures and charges an $800 minimum annual tax regardless of profitability. New York and Delaware have more favorable treatments. Check your state's secretary of state website for specific requirements.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Thanks for the business.gov suggestion! I'll check that out instead. And I had no idea California charges $800 annually regardless of profit - that's good to know since we might expand there eventually. I'll definitely look up my state's requirements on the secretary of state website.

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