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How to handle filing federal and state taxes across different states (PA and NJ)

My wife and I currently live in different states - I'm in Pennsylvania and she's in New Jersey due to our job situations. We've always filed married jointly for federal in the past, but I'm wondering if we can file jointly for federal while filing separately for our respective states? I spoke with a tax professional who told me that we can't have different filing statuses for federal versus state, but that answer doesn't sit right with me. When I tried filing jointly for both federal and state, I ended up owing almost $8,000 in federal taxes! That seems excessive and I feel like there must be a better solution for our multi-state situation. Does anyone have experience with this kind of situation? Is it actually possible to file jointly for federal but separately for state when spouses live in different states? Any advice would be greatly appreciated before I potentially overpay by thousands.

Yes, you absolutely can file a joint federal return while filing separate state returns. Your tax professional is incorrect on this point. Federal and state filing are completely separate systems. Many states even require separate filing when spouses live in different states. For Pennsylvania and New Jersey specifically, you would each file a resident return in your respective state of residence. For your federal return, you'll likely benefit from filing jointly in most scenarios, as this typically results in a lower overall tax burden. For your state returns, since you live in different states, you'll each file a resident return reporting your own income in your state of residence. If either of you earned income in the other spouse's state, you might also need to file a non-resident return in that state. For example, if you work in NJ but live in PA, you'd file as a resident in PA and as a non-resident in NJ for the income earned there. I'd recommend consulting with a different tax professional who has experience with multi-state taxation, as this is a fairly common situation.

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This was super helpful, thanks! One quick follow-up - if we file jointly for federal but separately for state, do we need to divide up our deductions somehow? Like if we have mortgage interest or charitable donations, how do we split those up?

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For federal deductions, you'll claim everything on your joint return as you normally would - no splitting required since you're filing jointly. For state returns, you'll need to allocate deductions based on each state's rules. Generally, you would allocate deductions that relate to specific properties to the state where the property is located. For personal deductions like charitable contributions, you typically split these proportionally based on your income or according to who actually made the payments. Each state has different rules about which deductions are allowed and how they should be allocated, so you'll need to check the specific requirements for PA and NJ.

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Does this actually work with complicated situations? I'm in CT but my husband works in NY and we have rental property in NJ. Last year our preparer charged us almost $900 because of all the "complexity." Would this handle all that?

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Hey, if you're still trying to get clarification on this multi-state issue, you might want to talk to the IRS directly. I was in a similar situation last year and couldn't get a straight answer from local preparers. I used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual IRS agent (took about 15 mins instead of the usual 2-hour hold time). You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent confirmed I could file jointly for federal and separately for state returns - it's actually quite common for people living in different states. They even directed me to some specific publications that clarified everything. Saved me from overpaying about $3k in taxes by getting the official word instead of relying on conflicting advice.

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How does this calling service actually work? Do they just call and wait on hold for you? I'm confused about how they get you to the front of the line.

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Sounds like a scam tbh. The IRS doesn't let people cut the line, and they certainly don't give tax advice over the phone. They literally tell you they can't provide tax advice, just procedural info.

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They don't get you to the front of any line - they use an automated system that constantly redials until it gets through, then holds your place until an agent answers. When an agent is available, you get a call connecting you directly to that agent. It's basically like having someone wait on hold for you. The IRS absolutely can clarify filing status questions and point you to relevant publications - that's not considered "tax advice" in the way you're thinking. What they won't do is tell you which specific deductions to take or how to structure your finances to minimize taxes. But for straightforward procedural questions like "Can I file jointly for federal and separately for state?" they can absolutely confirm the official position.

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Just adding my 2 cents as someone who's lived in NJ with a spouse in NY for years - you absolutely can file jointly federal and separately for state. We've done it for 6 years now. I recommend using tax software that handles multi-state returns well. I've had good luck with H&R Block Premium. The interview process walks you through the state residency questions and handles all the allocations correctly. One thing to watch for with PA/NJ specifically - make sure you look into the Reciprocal Personal Income Tax Agreement between PA and NJ. Depending on where you each work (vs where you live), this can simplify things considerably.

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Do you have any experience with TurboTax for multi-state returns? I'm trying to decide between that and H&R Block for next year.

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I've used both and found H&R Block handles multi-state situations more intuitively, especially when you have income that needs to be allocated between states. TurboTax works too, but I found myself having to manually override some calculations with TurboTax that H&R Block handled automatically. The biggest difference I noticed was how H&R Block walked through state residency questions and then properly allocated income, deductions and credits between states. That said, both will get you there if you're careful about how you enter everything. Just make sure you're using the premium/deluxe versions that support multiple states.

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Coming from a similar situation (different states IL/WI) - here's what really matters for you: where you each EARN the money, not just where you live. If one of you works in the other's state, it gets more complicated. You might need to file: - Joint federal - Resident state return for each of you - Non-resident state return(s) if either of you earn income in the other state Each state has different rules about credit for taxes paid to other states too, so don't assume anything. PA and NJ do have a reciprocal agreement that might help simplify things. My suggestion: find a CPA who specializes in multi-state taxation. It's worth the money for at least the first year to get everything set up correctly.

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Completely agree with this. My husband and I are in CT/MA and we file jointly federal, separate state returns, and I also file a non-resident return in MA where I work but don't live. First year was complicated but now we just update the same basic structure each year.

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That's a great point about the ongoing benefit. Most multi-state situations follow the same pattern year after year, so once you get it set up correctly, it's much easier to maintain. We keep a checklist of which forms need to be filed for each state and in what order, which helps a lot. One other tip: if you use tax software, save PDF copies of your completed returns with detailed notes about any special calculations or allocations. This becomes incredibly helpful the following year when you're trying to remember how you handled a particular situation.

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Your tax professional was definitely wrong - you absolutely can file jointly for federal while filing separately for your respective states. This is actually a very common situation for couples living in different states. Federal and state tax systems are completely independent. You can choose married filing jointly for federal (which usually provides better tax benefits) while each filing as residents in your respective states - you in PA and your wife in NJ. The key things to consider: - File joint federal return reporting all income - Each file resident state returns in your home states - If either of you works across state lines, you may need non-resident returns too - PA and NJ have reciprocal agreements that can simplify things depending on work locations That $8,000 federal tax bill when filing jointly sounds unusually high - there might be withholding issues or other factors at play. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a CPA who specializes in multi-state taxation. Don't let one incorrect professional cost you thousands in overpayment. The fact that your gut told you something was off was right on target. Trust that instinct and find someone with proper multi-state experience.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I had that gut feeling something was wrong when my tax professional told me federal and state had to match. It just didn't make logical sense to me that completely separate tax systems would have that kind of restriction. I'm definitely going to look for a CPA who specializes in multi-state situations. Do you happen to know if the PA/NJ reciprocal agreement applies if we both work in our home states, or only if one of us works across state lines? We both work in the states where we live, so I'm hoping that might simplify things even more. Thanks for validating my instincts - I was starting to second-guess myself after that meeting!

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