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Rosie Harper

How to get my W2 from a restaurant that closed down permanently

So I worked briefly as a hostess at this local restaurant last summer. I found the job by literally walking in with my resume and talking to the manager directly. Didn't even get any emails or texts - just showed up for my shifts. The place was a complete nightmare - toxic management, staff yelling at each other, and horrible organization. I quit after only working 3 weekends because it was that bad. Apparently I wasn't the only one who couldn't stand it because they ended up shutting down about a month after I left. Now I'm trying to get my W2 for tax season and I have zero contact information. Their phone is disconnected and their website is completely gone. I have no idea how to reach the former owner or manager. I think I only made around $450-$500 total from the few weekends I worked there. Does anyone know if I even need to report this income or is there a minimum threshold? And if I do need it, where the heck do I find my W2 when the business no longer exists?

The $600 threshold is only for self-employment income (1099 work). For W-2 employment, technically ALL income needs to be reported regardless of how small the amount is. Since the restaurant is closed, you have a couple of options. First, try checking the IRS website - they might have a copy of your W-2 if the employer filed it. You can request your wage and income transcript through the IRS website. The owner was required to file W-2s with the IRS even if they closed the business. If that doesn't work, you can try searching for the owner through your state's business registration database. Most states have online portals where you can look up business names and find the registered owners. This might give you contact info for the former owner. As a last resort, you can file Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) with your tax return. You'll need to estimate your earnings and withholding as accurately as possible.

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Demi Hall

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What if the restaurant owner never actually filed the W2 forms with the IRS? I had a similar situation where a small business I worked for closed and they never reported my income. Would the IRS still have records of my employment?

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That's definitely possible - not all employers follow the rules, especially when they're going out of business. In that case, the IRS wouldn't have a W-2 on file for you, and the wage transcript wouldn't show that employment. If you believe they never reported your wages, you'd need to file Form 4852 as I mentioned. You'll have to provide your best estimate of what you earned and what was withheld for taxes. Any pay stubs you have would be helpful for this, but if you don't have those either, just make your best guess based on your hourly rate and hours worked.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Don't overcomplicate this. If you made less than $500, the tax would be so minimal that it's barely worth the hassle. Technically you're supposed to report all income, but the IRS isn't going to come after you for a few dollars in unpaid tax on a tiny amount from a now-defunct business. Just make sure your other income is properly reported and you should be fine. The IRS has bigger fish to fry than tracking down someone's weekend hostessing job.

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Rosie Harper

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I get what you're saying, but I'm a little nervous about just not reporting it. Couldn't this cause problems later if they somehow find out? I don't want to deal with penalties or an audit over something small.

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Pedro Sawyer

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The chance of an audit over this is extremely slim. The IRS typically focuses on much larger discrepancies. Remember that penalties are generally based on percentages of unpaid tax. If the tax on $500 might be what, maybe $50? Then any penalty would be a tiny percentage of that. But honestly, if you're worried, just file Form 4852 with your best estimate of what you earned. That covers you legally while acknowledging you made a good faith effort to report everything.

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Mae Bennett

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Did they withhold any taxes from your paychecks? If not, and you made under $600, then I don't think you'd get a W-2 anyway but rather a 1099. But restaurants typically put all workers on payroll as employees (W-2). If they did withhold taxes, you definitely want to track this down because you might actually be owed a refund of those withheld amounts!

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This is incorrect information. The $600 threshold is for 1099-NEC forms for independent contractors, not for W-2 employees. If you are an employee (which restaurant workers almost always are), your employer must issue a W-2 regardless of how little you earned. There is no minimum threshold for W-2 forms.

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Jade O'Malley

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I went through something very similar when a small retail store I worked at during college closed suddenly. Here's what I learned from that experience: First, definitely try the IRS wage and income transcript - you can request it online at irs.gov. Even if the business is gone, they may have filed your W-2 before closing. If that doesn't work, check your state's Secretary of State business database. You can usually search by business name and find the registered agent or owner information. Sometimes they're required to maintain contact info even after dissolution. Also, try reaching out to your state's Department of Labor or wage and hour division. They sometimes have records of businesses that have closed and can help track down former owners for employment-related issues. If all else fails, Form 4852 is your backup. Keep any documentation you have - pay stubs, bank deposits, anything that shows your earnings. The IRS accepts reasonable estimates when the employer fails to provide proper documentation. And yes, you do need to report all W-2 income regardless of the amount - there's no minimum threshold for employee wages like there is for contractor payments.

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This is really helpful advice! I especially appreciate the tip about checking with the state's Department of Labor. I hadn't thought of that angle. Quick question - when you filed Form 4852 for your retail job, did you need any special documentation beyond your own records? I'm worried because I literally have nothing from this restaurant job except my memory of working there and maybe some bank deposits that show when I got paid. Also, did the IRS give you any trouble about using estimated amounts, or were they pretty understanding about the situation?

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