Former employer closed down and I never received a W-2, was never in system
I worked at this local coffee shop about 3 years ago, and despite asking several times to be put in their payroll system, I think the owner never actually did it. Fast forward to now - the place has completely shut down and apparently all my former coworkers received their W-2s, but I never got anything. I'm pretty sure I was basically paid under the table without realizing it at the time. The problem is I have absolutely zero way of contacting the previous owner now, and I need to file both my back taxes and current ones soon. Should I reach out to the IRS about this situation? Would I be in trouble if I just don't include this income on my taxes? I'm not trying to get myself into any kind of tax mess, but I honestly don't know what the right approach is here. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Christopher Morgan
This is actually more common than you might think. Since your employer paid you "under the table" (without proper payroll), you technically need to report this as self-employment income on Schedule C. You don't need a W-2 to report income - the IRS expects you to report all income regardless of documentation. The good news is you likely won't get in trouble if you report it now, even if it's late. The IRS is typically more concerned with people who deliberately hide income rather than those trying to fix past mistakes. Use your bank statements to estimate how much you earned during that period if you have no pay stubs.
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Aurora St.Pierre
•But wouldn't reporting it as self-employment income mean they have to pay the full 15.3% in self-employment taxes rather than the 7.65% they would've paid as an employee? That seems unfair when it was the employer's fault.
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Christopher Morgan
•Yes, that's a valid concern. When you file as self-employed, you do pay both the employer and employee portions of FICA taxes (15.3% total). However, there's an alternative - you can file Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" which allows you to report the income as wages without a W-2 and only pay the employee portion of FICA taxes. You would use reason code H on Form 8919: "Wages were not reported on Form W-2." This protects you from potential audit issues while preventing you from having to pay the employer's share of taxes. You'd still owe income tax on the earnings, but at least you wouldn't be double-taxed on the FICA portion.
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Grace Johnson
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Jayden Reed
•Did they charge you a lot for this? I'm in a similar situation but really can't afford expensive tax help right now.
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Nora Brooks
•How does this actually work? Do they just give general advice or do they actually help with the specific forms? I'm dealing with multiple missing W-2s from different jobs and wondering if this could help.
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Grace Johnson
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Nora Brooks
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Eli Wang
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Cassandra Moon
•Wait is this legit? I've literally spent HOURS on hold with the IRS and never got through. How is this even possible?
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Zane Hernandez
•Sounds like a scam to me. Why would I give my phone number to some random service? The IRS probably doesn't even allow this kind of thing.
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Eli Wang
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Zane Hernandez
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Genevieve Cavalier
Just to add another perspective - I didn't report some cash income from a job years ago (about $4500) and ended up getting a letter from the IRS about it 3 years later. Turns out the business had actually reported paying me on their taxes even though they never gave me a W-2. The penalties and interest were way worse than if I'd just reported it correctly from the start. Don't risk it!!
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Zoey Bianchi
•Yikes, that's exactly what I'm worried about! Did you have to pay a lot in penalties? And how did they figure out how much you made if you didn't have documentation?
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Genevieve Cavalier
•I had to pay about $950 in penalties and interest on top of the original tax amount I owed. It was painful because by that point I wasn't expecting to have to pay anything. The business had filed a 1099-MISC for me (even though I was actually an employee), so the IRS had their record of what I was paid. That's why they knew exactly how much income I hadn't reported. In your case, if the owner never reported paying you anything, it might be harder for the IRS to catch, but it's still not worth the risk. Plus, you miss out on Social Security credits when income isn't reported properly.
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Ethan Scott
Something nobody's mentioned - you should check your Social Security statement online at ssa.gov to see if any wages were reported. If your employer DID report wages but just never gave you a W-2, it would show up there. This might help you figure out exactly what was reported so you can match it on your tax return.
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Lola Perez
•This is really good advice! I had a similar situation and when I checked my Social Security statement, I found out my employer had actually reported SOME of my wages but not all of them. Made it much easier to figure out what to report.
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Nathaniel Stewart
If all else fails and you can't figure out the exact amount, make a good faith estimate based on how many hours you worked and what your hourly rate was. The IRS mainly cares that you're making an honest effort to report your income. Just document how you came up with your estimate (like "worked approx 20 hours per week for 25 weeks at $15/hr = $7,500") and keep that with your tax records.
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