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How to figure out tax basis distributions allowed for property investment?

Hey tax gurus, I'm trying to wrap my head around calculating the tax basis distributions allowed on a rental property I purchased last year. The property cost me $375,000, and I've put about $42,000 into renovations. I know I can depreciate the building value but not the land, but I'm confused about how to determine what portion of distributions from the property are considered a return of capital vs. taxable income. My accountant mentioned something about tracking my "basis" but honestly I zoned out during our meeting and now I'm too embarrassed to call back. I've been getting quarterly income from the property management company, and they don't specify what's considered return of basis vs. taxable income. How do I figure this out so I don't overpay on taxes? Is there a specific form or worksheet I should be using to track this?

The key thing you need to understand is that "basis" is essentially what you've invested into the property (your cost basis), and it affects how much of your distributions are taxable. Start by separating land value from building value, as you correctly noted only the building can be depreciated. You can use the property tax assessment ratio or get an appraisal to determine this split. Let's say 80% building ($300,000) and 20% land ($75,000) for your example. Your initial basis is your purchase price plus capital improvements, so $375,000 + $42,000 = $417,000. Each year, you'll reduce this basis by the depreciation you're allowed to take (typically residential rental property is depreciated over 27.5 years). When you receive rental income, it's generally all taxable as ordinary income. However, if you're talking about distributions from a partnership or LLC that owns the property, those distributions aren't automatically taxable. They're only taxable to the extent they exceed your remaining basis. Track this on Form 8949 and Schedule D when you eventually sell the property. For ongoing tracking, create a simple spreadsheet showing: initial basis, plus improvements, minus depreciation, minus distributions that were treated as return of capital.

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Thanks for the explanation. I'm still a bit confused though. If I get quarterly checks from my property management company, do I need to determine myself how much is return of basis vs income? Or do they typically provide this breakdown on a form at the end of the year? And do I need to report the return of basis portion on my taxes even though it's not taxable?

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The quarterly checks from your property management company are simply your rental income minus their management fees and any expenses they paid on your behalf. This is all considered rental income, not return of basis. Return of basis typically only comes into play when you sell the property or receive distributions from a partnership/LLC that exceed the profit being generated. For a typical rental property, you'll report all your rental income and expenses on Schedule E, and take depreciation deductions which will reduce your basis over time.

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Don't forget about IRS Publication 551 which specifically covers "Basis of Assets" - it has examples for different scenarios. The most important thing to remember is that distributions from rental activities typically aren't affecting your basis the way you might think. For regular rental income: 1. Rental income doesn't reduce your basis 2. Rental expenses don't increase your basis (except capital improvements) 3. Depreciation DOES reduce your basis 4. Money you take out of the rental business doesn't affect basis This is different from partnership distributions where distributions can reduce your basis. Are you operating this as a sole proprietor or through an entity? That makes a big difference in how basis is calculated and tracked.

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But what if you refinance the property and take cash out? Does that reduce your basis? I did that last year and my tax guy mentioned something about it potentially being tax-free but tracking for later...

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Refinancing and taking cash out generally doesn't reduce your basis. This is often considered a loan, not income. The cash you receive isn't taxable when you get it, and it doesn't reduce your basis. However, your tax guy is right about tracking it. While the cash-out itself doesn't affect basis, it can create a situation where you have "negative equity" if you owe more than your adjusted basis. This can become important when you sell the property later, as it might limit your ability to defer taxes through a 1031 exchange or could trigger debt forgiveness income in certain situations.

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I'm actually dealing with this right now for a property I sold last year. One tip nobody mentioned yet: KEEP EVERY RECEIPT for improvements! I mean everything. New roof? Keep it. New appliances? Keep it. Even small stuff like cabinet hardware adds up. When I sold my rental last year, I was able to add almost $67k to my basis from improvements I made over 8 years. That significantly reduced my capital gains tax. I used a simple Google Sheet to track: - Original purchase price - Plus: Improvements (itemized by date) - Minus: Depreciation taken each year - Equals: Adjusted basis at time of sale The IRS allows you to include closing costs in your basis too! Don't forget those.

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How far back can you go for improvements? I have a rental I've owned for 15 years and I'm sure I'm missing receipts from the early years. Also did you have to submit all those receipts with your tax return or just keep them in case of audit?

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You can go back as far as you've owned the property for improvements - there's no time limit. The IRS expects you to have records, but they understand that older receipts might be missing. If you're missing some from the early years, try to reconstruct what you can using: - Bank statements showing payments to contractors - Credit card statements for materials - Photos with timestamps showing before/after improvements - Permits pulled (city records often go back decades) - Insurance claims that might have covered improvements You don't submit the receipts with your return - just keep them for your records. The IRS only sees them if you get audited. But definitely document everything you can find, even estimates are better than nothing. I had a few improvements where I could only estimate costs based on similar work done later, and my accountant said that was acceptable as long as the estimates were reasonable.

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