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Omar Zaki

How to e-file W2/W3 and Form 941 before IRS year-end shutdown?

Hi all! First-year small business owner here and I just realized I might be in a pickle with the IRS e-filing system shutting down in December. Last quarter I submitted through Taxbandits but everything got stuck "pending" because of this shutdown thing I had no idea about. For 2025, I'm trying to plan ahead better. Is it possible to e-file my Q4 Form 941 and the year-end W2s in like mid-December before they shut everything down? Taxbandits told me they'll accept the filing but won't actually transmit until after the shutdown period. Meanwhile my colleague who uses Gusto said they don't even provide the W2 and 1099 forms until sometime in January. I'm so confused about the best approach here. Do I just file early and let it sit? Wait until January? What's the actual deadline I need to worry about? This is all new territory for me and I want to make sure I'm not screwing anything up for my employees or getting penalized. Thanks for any wisdom you can share!

Chloe Taylor

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The IRS does have an annual e-filing shutdown for system maintenance, typically in late December, which can cause delays in processing. For your Q4 Form 941, the actual filing deadline isn't until January 31, 2026, so while you can prepare it in December, there's no rush to submit before the shutdown. The IRS doesn't expect Q4 filings that early anyway. For W-2s and W-3s, you have until January 31, 2026, to both provide forms to employees and submit to the Social Security Administration. Most payroll systems wait until January to generate these because they need the full year's data to be finalized first. What your payroll provider (Taxbandits) is telling you is correct - they can accept your information during the shutdown, but won't transmit until the IRS systems are back online, which is typically early January.

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Diego Flores

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Does this mean there's no benefit to preparing these forms in December at all? I also use Taxbandits and was planning to get everything ready before Christmas so I could relax during the holidays.

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Chloe Taylor

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There's definitely a benefit to preparing your forms in December if that timing works better for you. You can get everything ready and submit it to your provider so it's in their queue for transmission when the IRS systems reopen. This gives you peace of mind during the holidays and gets you ahead of the January rush. The key distinction is between preparation (which you can do anytime) and actual transmission to the IRS (which will happen after the shutdown regardless of when you prepare it). If your books are reconciled and your Q4 data is final, there's nothing wrong with early preparation.

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StarStrider

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Not sure I believe this would help with IRS shutdowns. Sounds like just another layer between you and your tax provider. Wouldn't Taxbandits tell you the same information?

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They don't directly integrate with payroll services, but you can upload any confirmation emails, PDFs, or screenshots from your provider. The system analyzes those documents and gives you plain English explanations about status, deadlines, and next steps. As for whether it's just another layer - it's actually the opposite. Taxbandits will tell you it's "pending" but won't explain the IRS workflow. With taxr.ai, I uploaded my "pending" notification and immediately got confirmation that this was normal during December shutdown, explained exactly when transmission would occur, and gave me the official IRS timelines that applied to my specific forms.

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Nia Davis

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Something nobody's mentioned: I've been filing my 941s through the IRS Business portal lately, and you bypass a lot of these third-party transmission delays. It's free and you get immediate confirmation. For W-2s, remember that those go to SSA not IRS, and they have their own system and deadlines. That's partly why your payroll software won't generate them until January - they need the complete year data.

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Omar Zaki

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Oh that's interesting about the Business portal! I didn't know about that option. Does it have the same December shutdown? And is there any advantage to using that vs going through Taxbandits?

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Nia Davis

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Yes, the Business portal still has the December shutdown because it's part of the IRS e-file system. The advantage is that it's free and you get instant confirmation when the system is operational. The disadvantage is you're doing more manual work that your payroll service would otherwise handle. If you're using Taxbandits for payroll processing already, it's probably easier to just let them handle the transmissions too. But if you're doing your own payroll calculations and just using them for transmission, the Business portal could save you some money. The learning curve isn't too steep if you're already comfortable with the forms.

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Mateo Perez

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Stupid question maybe but what exactly are the dates for the IRS shutdown? Is it the same every year? I've been filing quarterly stuff for 3 years and somehow never noticed this shutdown thing.

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Chloe Taylor

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Not a stupid question at all! The IRS doesn't widely advertise their maintenance windows. The year-end shutdown typically starts around December 23-26 and lasts until approximately January 2-4, though the exact dates can shift slightly each year. The IRS usually announces the specific dates in a bulletin to e-file providers about 30 days before the shutdown. Your provider (like Taxbandits) gets these notices and should communicate them to you, but many don't do a great job of it.

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Sofia Perez

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Great thread everyone! As someone who's been doing small business payroll for 8 years, I want to add a few key points that might help newcomers like Omar: 1) The December shutdown is frustrating but predictable - use it to your advantage by getting organized early rather than stressing about transmission timing. 2) Don't forget that your employees need their W-2s by January 31st regardless of when you submit to SSA. Many business owners focus on the government deadlines and forget about the employee deadline. 3) If you're using a payroll service, ask them NOW about their year-end timeline. Some providers have different cutoff dates for year-end processing that are earlier than you'd expect. 4) Keep good records of your submission confirmations. Whether you use third-party tools or just screenshot everything, having proof of timely submission can save you major headaches if there are processing delays or questions later. The learning curve is steep in your first few years, but once you understand the rhythm it becomes much more manageable!

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Emma Davis

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This is really helpful Sofia! I'm also a newcomer to business payroll and had no idea about asking providers for their year-end timeline. Just called my payroll service and found out they need all Q4 data finalized by December 20th if I want W-2s generated by their first January batch. That's way earlier than I was planning to close my books! Quick question - when you mention keeping records of submission confirmations, do you recommend any specific format or just whatever the provider sends? I've been saving email confirmations but wondering if there's something more official I should be requesting.

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