How to complete Form 8843 line 4 for J1 Alien Physician tax filing?
I'm stressing out about filing my taxes as a J1 Alien Physician and I'm completely stuck on Form 8843 line 4. This is my second year in the US on the J1 visa working at a teaching hospital in Chicago. It's asking for some information but I'm not sure exactly what needs to go there. The form has me confused - I understand most of the other sections but this specific line is giving me trouble. I tried looking at last year's form but I think someone from the hospital admin helped me fill it out, and now I'm on my own. Has anyone dealt with this before? What exactly goes on line 4 for Form 8843 when you're here as a J1 physician? I need to get this submitted soon so any help would be really appreciated!
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Keisha Williams
Line 4 on Form 8843 asks for "The type of U.S. visa (foreign visitor status) you held during the tax year and the date you entered the United States." As a J1 Alien Physician, you'll need to write "J-1" and then include the date you first entered the US under that visa status. For example, if you entered on March 15, 2023, you would write: "J-1, 03/15/2023" or "J-1 visa, entered 03/15/2023". Be sure to use the date from your I-94 record or passport entry stamp, not the visa issuance date, as they can be different.
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Paolo Ricci
•Thanks for the explanation! I'm also on a J1 but I've traveled back to my home country a few times since I first got the visa. Do I use the very first date I ever entered on this J1 or the most recent entry date from my last trip back to the US?
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Keisha Williams
•You should use the date of your first entry on your current J-1 visa status, not your most recent entry after traveling. The IRS wants to know when you initially began your current stay under the J-1 program. If you've maintained the same J-1 status throughout (even with travel), use that original entry date. If you received a completely new J-1 visa (not just travel on an existing one), then you would use the date you entered on that new visa status.
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Oliver Zimmermann
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Malik Johnson
Don't overthink Form 8843 line 4! It's simply asking for your visa type and entry date. Just put "J-1" followed by the date you first entered the US on that visa. Make sure to format the date correctly (MM/DD/YYYY). However, the more important part for J1 physicians is Part III of the form since it relates to the medical exception. Make sure you complete that section carefully as it affects your exempt individual status. Your program director should be able to provide the information needed for that section.
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Isabella Ferreira
•Do I need to include any information about my sponsoring institution on line 4? My program coordinator mentioned something about that but wasn't sure.
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Malik Johnson
•No, you don't need to include sponsoring institution information on line 4. That information goes elsewhere on the form, specifically in Part III where it asks about your medical education program details. Line 4 only requires your visa type and entry date. The sponsoring institution, program details, and other specifics about your medical training go in the later sections of the form. Your program coordinator might have been thinking about those other sections.
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Ravi Sharma
Has anyone figured out if we need to file Form 8843 every year? I'm in my third year as a J1 physician and still confused if I need to keep submitting this form even though I'm now considered a resident alien for tax purposes based on the substantial presence test.
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NebulaNomad
•Yes, you need to file Form 8843 every year you're in the United States on a J visa, even after you become a resident alien for tax purposes. It's easy to get confused because the form deals with "exempt individual" status, which isn't about tax exemptions but about being exempt from counting days for the substantial presence test.
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Freya Thomsen
Small tip for J1 physicians: when filling out Form 8843 line 4, I learned from my tax advisor that it's helpful to be specific about your J1 category. So instead of just "J-1, 01/15/2023" you might want to write "J-1 Alien Physician, 01/15/2023" to be extra clear. Also, make sure you're keeping track of all your entry/exit dates if you travel internationally during your program. This becomes really important for calculating your substantial presence test in future years!
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Omar Fawaz
•Is it really necessary to specify "Alien Physician" on line 4? The form just asks for visa type and entry date. I'm worried about adding extra info if it's not required.
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Freya Thomsen
•It's not absolutely required to specify "Alien Physician" - just "J-1" with the date would technically satisfy what line 4 asks for. However, my tax advisor recommended being specific because J1 physicians have different tax rules than other J1 categories. Being clear upfront can help prevent confusion if your return gets reviewed, especially since Form 8843 is specifically used to establish exempt individual status, which has special considerations for medical professionals. It's a small detail that might help avoid questions later.
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Samuel Robinson
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact same confusion last year! For Form 8843 line 4, I ended up putting "J-1, 06/12/2022" (using my actual entry date) and it was accepted without any issues. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple timeline of all my entries and exits from the US since starting my J1 program. Even though line 4 only asks for the initial entry date, having that complete record made filling out the rest of the form much easier and helped me understand my substantial presence test status. Also, don't forget that as J1 physicians, we're considered "exempt individuals" for our first two calendar years in the US for substantial presence test purposes, which is different from other visa categories. This status affects not just Form 8843 but also how you calculate your tax residency status going forward.
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