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Jenna Sloan

Do J-1 Exchange Students Need to File Form 8843 for Short Programs?

Hey there! I'm an international student on a J-1 visa studying at a US college for the 2023-2024 academic year. My program started in August 2023 and runs until May 2024. I haven't had any jobs or received any income during my time here in America. I'm a bit confused about the tax filing requirements though. Since I'm here for parts of two different tax years, I'm not sure what to do about Form 8843. Do I need to file the non-resident 8843 tax form for the 2023 tax year now? Or should I wait and file both 2023 and 2024 tax years together next year when my program is finished? Will there be any penalties if I wait and do them both at once? This is my first time dealing with US tax stuff and I'm totally confused about the timing. Thanks for any advice you can give! :

Yes, you need to file Form 8843 for both tax years separately. For your 2023 tax year (covering August-December 2023), you should file Form 8843 by the regular tax deadline of April 15, 2024. Then for your 2024 tax year (January-May 2024), you'll need to file another Form 8843 by April 15, 2025. Each tax year is treated separately in the US system. Even though you haven't earned any income, J-1 visa holders are still required to file Form 8843 to establish your status as a nonresident alien for tax purposes. It's a relatively simple form that basically documents your presence in the US. If you wait and try to file both years together in 2025, you'll technically be late for your 2023 filing. However, since Form 8843 is just an informational return (not an actual tax return if you had no US income), there's typically no penalty for filing it late. But it's still best practice to file on time.

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Sasha Reese

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Does this apply to all visa types? I have a family member coming on an F-1 visa soon and wondering if they'll need to do the same thing.

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Jenna Sloan

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Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize I needed to file them separately. I was hoping to just do everything at once when I finish my program, but I'll go ahead and submit the 2023 form before April 15th. Is the form complicated? Can I just download it and fill it out myself, or should I get help from my university's international student office?

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F-1 students have the same requirement - they must file Form 8843 for each calendar year they're present in the US, even if they have no income. The form is specifically for nonresident aliens who are temporarily in the US under certain visa categories. Form 8843 is one of the simpler tax forms - it's just 2 pages and mostly asks for basic information about your visa status, program, and time in the US. Most international students can complete it themselves without professional help. That said, many universities have international student offices that offer free tax help or workshops specifically for this purpose. I'd definitely recommend checking if your school offers this service, as they can guide you through the process.

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Noland Curtis

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Does it actually help fill out the forms or just tell you which ones you need? I'm also a J-1 student and tried using my university's tax software but it kept crashing.

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Diez Ellis

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I'm a bit skeptical about these online tax tools. Are you sure it's accurate for international students? The last thing I want is to mess up my visa status because of bad tax advice.

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It actually helps you fill out the forms correctly. You answer questions about your specific situation, and it generates the completed forms that you can print or submit electronically. It's much more reliable than general tax software that isn't designed specifically for international students. I completely understand the skepticism. What convinced me was that it's specifically built for international students and scholars - unlike general tax software that mostly focuses on US citizens. It has all the specific rules for different visa types and tax treaties built in. My university's international office actually recommended it because they've had good experiences with students using it.

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Noland Curtis

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Diez Ellis

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Sadie Benitez

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Quick tip from someone who's been on a J-1 for three years: Make a calendar reminder NOW for next year's filing. As an international student, it's super easy to forget the US tax deadlines since they might be different from your home country. Also, keep copies of everything you file! I learned this the hard way when I needed to prove I had filed previous years' forms for a visa extension. The IRS doesn't send confirmation when you mail in Form 8843, so your only proof is your own copy.

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Jenna Sloan

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That's great advice, thank you! I just added reminders to my phone for both April 2024 and 2025. I definitely would have forgotten otherwise. Do I need to mail the form with tracking or anything special? Or just regular mail is fine?

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Sadie Benitez

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Regular mail is technically fine, but I always send it with tracking just for my own peace of mind. The form doesn't require a signature or anything fancy, but having proof that it was delivered can be helpful if there's ever a question about whether you filed. A cheaper alternative is to take a photo of your completed form before sending it, and then keep the photo along with your mailing receipt. That way you have documentation of what you sent and when you sent it. This has saved me more than once when I needed to reference what I filed in previous years!

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Drew Hathaway

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Another international student here! Important note: if you received ANY kind of scholarship, grant, or stipend that covered your tuition or living expenses, you might need to file forms beyond just the 8843. Some scholarships are considered taxable income even if you never saw the money directly. When I first came to the US, I only filed Form 8843 but later found out my tuition waiver was technically reportable. Had to file an amended return which was a huge hassle.

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Laila Prince

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This is super important! My roommate almost got in trouble because her housing stipend was taxable and she had no idea. The university didn't withhold any taxes so she ended up owing money later.

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Ethan Clark

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This is such a helpful thread! As someone who just started on a J-1 visa this January, I'm learning so much from everyone's experiences. One thing I want to add that might help other newcomers: check if your home country has a tax treaty with the US! Some countries have agreements that can affect how you file or what forms you need. My international student advisor mentioned this but I haven't looked into it deeply yet. Also, does anyone know if there are different requirements for J-1 research scholars versus J-1 students? I have friends in both categories and I'm wondering if we all follow the same rules for Form 8843. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - it makes navigating this so much less scary when you can learn from people who've actually been through it!

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