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Amara Eze

Filing 1040 NR or 1040 or both after H1B transition from F-1 visa?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a confusing spot with my taxes this year. So I recently transitioned from an F-1 student visa to an H1B work visa starting in October 2023. For all you tax wizards out there - do I need to file both the 1040 NR and regular 1040 forms, or just one of them? My visa status changed mid-year and I'm completely confused about how to handle this for the 2023 tax season when I file in 2024. Any advice would be super appreciated!

You'll need to file a "dual-status" return since your residency status changed within the tax year. This means you were a nonresident alien for part of the year (F-1 status) and a resident alien for part of the year (after H1B). For a dual-status return, you'll typically file Form 1040 for the resident portion of the year with "Dual-Status Return" written across the top. Then attach Form 1040NR as a statement to report your income during the nonresident portion. You'll also need to attach a statement showing which income belongs to each period. This gets a bit complex because you're essentially dividing your tax year into two parts with different tax rules applying to each.

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Thanks for the explanation! But how do you determine the exact date when status changes from nonresident to resident? Is it literally the day the H1B started (October 1st in OP's case), or is there some other calculation?

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It's generally the date your immigration status officially changed, so in this case, it would be when the H1B status became effective in October. For tax purposes, the substantial presence test also matters, which counts the days you're physically present in the US. However, during F-1 status, the first 5 calendar years are typically exempt from this test. Since you transitioned from F-1 to H1B within the same year, the date your H1B became effective would be your residency starting date.

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Dylan Wright

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Sofia Torres

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My issue is I can't figure out which deductions and credits I'm eligible for during each period. Does this tool handle that too? I heard nonresidents can't claim standard deduction but residents can?

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Dylan Wright

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Zainab Ahmed

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Don't forget that if you were on F-1 for less than 5 years before switching to H1B, you might still qualify for tax treaty benefits during your F-1 period. Check if your country has a tax treaty with the US and what specific provisions might apply. This could significantly reduce your tax liability for the F-1 portion of the year.

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Amara Eze

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Thanks for mentioning this! I'm from India and was on F-1 for 3 years before H1B. Do you know if there are specific treaty benefits that would apply in my case? And how do I claim them on a dual-status return?

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Zainab Ahmed

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India does have a tax treaty with the US, but unfortunately the benefits for students are quite limited compared to some other countries. Article 21 of the US-India tax treaty provides some exemptions for students, but they're mostly for scholarships and grants. For claiming treaty benefits on a dual-status return, you'll need to attach Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure) to your tax return, specifically identifying which treaty provisions you're claiming. On your 1040NR portion, you'd also complete the relevant sections about treaty benefits and reference the specific treaty article.

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Just be careful with state taxes too! Even though you're filing dual-status for federal, many states don't have an equivalent to 1040NR. You might need to file as a full-year resident for state purposes, or some states have special part-year resident forms. Either way, don't forget this piece - I did my first year and ended up with penalties.

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AstroAlpha

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Super important point! I live in California and they made me file as a part-year resident when I switched visa status. Had to use the 540NR form and calculate exactly which income was earned while I was a resident vs non-resident. Different rules than federal!

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Avery Saint

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Great question! I went through this exact same situation when I transitioned from F-1 to H1B in 2022. The key thing to understand is that you'll file what's called a "dual-status" return for 2023. Here's what you need to do: 1. File Form 1040 with "Dual-Status Return" written across the top 2. Attach Form 1040NR as a statement (don't file it separately) 3. Include a detailed statement showing how you split your income between the two periods The tricky part is determining exactly when your status changed for tax purposes. Since your H1B started in October 2023, that's likely your residency start date. Everything before October would be treated under nonresident rules, and everything after under resident rules. A few important things to remember: - You can't e-file a dual-status return - it has to be mailed - Different deduction rules apply to each period - Make sure to check if any tax treaty benefits apply to your F-1 period - Don't forget about state taxes - they often have different rules I'd definitely recommend getting professional help or using specialized software that handles dual-status returns, as the regular tax software doesn't handle this situation well. Good luck!

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NebulaNinja

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This is incredibly helpful! I'm actually in a very similar situation - just started my H1B in January 2024 after being on F-1 for about 2 years. Quick question though - you mentioned that different deduction rules apply to each period. Does this mean I need to calculate things like the standard deduction separately for each part of the year? And if I had student loan interest payments throughout the year, how do I handle that deduction across the two periods?

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@NebulaNinja Great question! Yes, you need to handle deductions differently for each period. During your F-1 (nonresident) period, you generally can't take the standard deduction and must itemize - but there are very limited deductions available to nonresidents. For the H-1B (resident) period, you can take the standard deduction or itemize, whichever is better. For student loan interest, it gets a bit complex. As a nonresident during F-1, you typically can't deduct student loan interest payments. However, once you become a resident during your H-1B period, you may be able to deduct the full annual amount (up to the $2,500 limit) on the resident portion of your return, as long as you meet the income requirements and other criteria. The key is that the deduction is based on your total annual payments but only claimed during the resident period. @Avery Saint can probably confirm this, but I believe you report the full year s'student loan interest on the resident portion since that s'when you re'eligible for the deduction. Just make sure to keep good records of when each payment was made throughout the year!

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Evelyn Kim

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is timing for estimated tax payments. Since you switched from F-1 to H-1B mid-year, you might need to make estimated quarterly payments for the H-1B portion if your employer wasn't withholding enough taxes (which is common when you start mid-year). The IRS expects you to pay taxes as you earn income, so even though you're filing a dual-status return for 2023, you should have been making estimated payments for Q4 2023 if needed. For 2024, make sure you're either having enough withheld from your H-1B paychecks or making quarterly estimated payments to avoid underpayment penalties. Also, keep detailed records of everything - dates of status change, pay stubs showing withholdings for each period, any tax treaty claims, etc. The IRS might have questions about dual-status returns, and having good documentation will save you headaches later.

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