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Rhett Bowman

How to complete Form 4868 extension request with no tax liabilities? Need help with 8949 and Schedule D.

Hey everyone, I'm trying to get an extension for 2023 to give myself more time to properly prepare my 8949 and Schedule D forms. I've been putting off dealing with all my crypto trades and stock sales because honestly, I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the transactions. I downloaded Form 4868 for the extension, but I'm not sure how to fill it out correctly since I don't think I'll have any tax liabilities. Last year I actually got a refund, and my situation hasn't changed much financially. One specific question I have is about the top center portion of Form 8949 - can I leave that blank? There's some kind of checkbox area and I'm just not sure what I need to fill out there. Any guidance would be super appreciated! This is my first time filing an extension and I don't want to mess it up.

Abigail Patel

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The good news is that filing for an extension with Form 4868 is actually pretty straightforward when you don't expect to owe taxes. Since you mentioned getting a refund last year and having a similar financial situation, you're likely in good shape. For Form 4868, you'll need to complete your personal information (name, address, SSN) on the top portion. Then for Part 1, you'll estimate your total tax liability - if you expect similar to last year with a refund, you can use last year's total tax liability as a reasonable estimate. For Part 2, since you don't expect to owe, you can enter zeros for lines 4, 5, and 6. Regarding Form 8949, the checkboxes at the top indicate which type of transactions you're reporting. You definitely need to check one of them - they correspond to whether the transactions were reported to the IRS on Form 1099-B. Box A is for short-term transactions reported on 1099-B with basis reported to the IRS; Box B is for short-term transactions reported but basis NOT reported; Box C is for short-term transactions not reported on 1099-B. Boxes D, E, and F are the same but for long-term transactions.

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Daniel White

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Thanks for explaining this! Quick question - if I file the extension, does that mean I have until October 15 to file both my regular 1040 AND the 8949/Schedule D? Or do certain forms still have an April deadline regardless of the extension? Also, if I received crypto tax forms from some exchanges but not others, how do I handle that on the 8949?

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Abigail Patel

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The extension applies to your entire tax return, so you have until October 15 to file everything - your Form 1040, Schedule D, Form 8949, and any other required forms. The extension gives you extra time to file, not extra time to pay, but since you're expecting a refund, that shouldn't be an issue for you. For crypto transactions, you'll need to report all of them regardless of whether you received forms from the exchanges. For those with forms (likely 1099-B or 1099-MISC), you'd check box A or D (depending on holding period) if the basis was reported to the IRS. If you have transactions from exchanges that didn't provide forms, those would go in box C or F. You might need to use multiple 8949 forms with different boxes checked to report all your transactions.

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Nolan Carter

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Natalia Stone

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Does it work with all the major exchanges? I've got stuff spread across Coinbase, Binance, and a couple smaller platforms. Also wondering if it can handle NFT transactions from last year?

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Tasia Synder

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Nolan Carter

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Tasia Synder

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Ellie Perry

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Yeah right. The IRS phone system is fundamentally broken - no way this actually works. I've tried calling at least 25 times this month alone. And even if you do get through, the agents rarely understand crypto reporting requirements. Feels like a waste of money.

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Ellie Perry

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Landon Morgan

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Can I piggyback on this question? If I'm filing Form 4868 for an extension but I sold my house last year, do I still put zero for tax liability if I'm confident I won't owe due to the primary residence exclusion? It was my primary home for 5 years and the profit was under $400K (married filing jointly).

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Abigail Patel

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Yes, if you qualify for the primary residence exclusion (which it sounds like you do since you lived there for 5 years and your profit is under the $500K limit for married filing jointly), then you can exclude that profit from your income. If that means you won't owe any taxes, you can put zero for tax liability on your Form 4868. However, you'll still need to report the sale on Form 8949 and Schedule D when you file your return, even though the profit is excluded. You'll use code "H" in column (f) to indicate the exclusion. Just make sure you're confident about qualifying for the exclusion - if there's any doubt, it might be safer to estimate some tax on the extension just in case.

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Landon Morgan

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Thank you so much for confirming! That makes perfect sense. I was 99% sure but wanted to double check. And yes, we definitely qualify - it was our only home and we lived there full time for 5 years before selling. I'll use code "H" when I file the full return. Appreciate the help!

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Teresa Boyd

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This might be a stupid question but... if I'm filing an extension, do I still need to contribute to my IRA by April 15th to count it for last year? Or does the extension give me until October for that too?

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Lourdes Fox

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Not a stupid question at all! Unfortunately, the extension doesn't give you extra time for IRA contributions. The deadline for making IRA contributions for the previous tax year is still the original filing deadline (April 15th for most people), regardless of whether you file an extension. So if you want to make a contribution to count for 2023, you need to do it by April 15, 2024, even if you're filing an extension for your tax return.

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Zoe Wang

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Just wanted to add something that might help with your Form 4868 extension - since you mentioned getting a refund last year and having a similar financial situation, you're likely safe putting zero for the estimated tax liability. But if you want to be extra cautious, you could put a small amount like $100 just to avoid any potential issues. For the 8949 checkbox confusion, I had the same problem last year! The key thing to remember is that you MUST check one of the boxes - leaving it blank will cause processing delays. Most individual crypto traders end up using Box C (short-term, not reported on 1099-B) and Box F (long-term, not reported on 1099-B) since most exchanges don't provide proper 1099-B forms with cost basis information. One tip that saved me a lot of headaches: keep detailed records of all your transactions with dates, amounts, and what you paid for each crypto. Even if you use software to help calculate everything, having your own backup records is invaluable if the IRS ever has questions. Good luck with your extension!

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