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How to calculate earnings on excess HSA contributions if I kept them in cash - not invested

So I messed up and overcontributed to my HSA by $1,650 for 2022. I kept this excess amount just sitting in cash instead of investing it, though I do have some other funds in my HSA that I did invest. I've been reading that earnings on excess HSA contributions need to be calculated the same way as IRA excess contributions using this formula: earnings = excess contribution x (adjusted opening balance - adjusted closing balance) / adjusted opening balance My question is - since my excess contribution was just sitting in cash earning that pathetic 0.01% interest rate, can I simply calculate my excess earnings using that interest rate? Or do I still have to use that complicated formula that factors in my entire HSA account's earnings including the invested portion? This seems ridiculous if the actual excess money wasn't even invested. I'm trying to fix this before filing my 2025 taxes and don't want to mess it up further. Any help would be appreciated!

This is a good question about excess HSA contributions! The IRS does require you to remove both the excess contribution AND any earnings attributable to it. Since your excess contribution of $1,650 was kept in cash and not invested, you can indeed use the simple method of calculating the earnings based on the cash interest rate of 0.01%. This would be much simpler than using the complex formula. The formula you mentioned is more relevant when the excess funds are commingled with other investments. For example, with $1,650 at 0.01% interest for a year, your earnings would be approximately $0.17 (and that's being generous with rounding). This is the amount you'd include along with returning the $1,650 excess contribution. Just make sure you complete Form 8889 correctly to report this correction, and file Form 5329 to report any applicable excise tax if you didn't correct the excess contribution before the tax filing deadline.

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Wait, I've always been told you have to use the formula no matter what. How do you know the cash-only method is acceptable to the IRS? Wouldn't they want you to include gains from the whole account since technically that money could have been invested instead?

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The key factor is that the excess contribution was segregated in a cash portion of the account and was never invested with the other funds. The IRS guidance focuses on attributable earnings - meaning earnings that are directly connected to the excess amount. If the funds were commingled or if all HSA funds were in a single investment pool, then you would need to use the formula to determine what portion of the overall earnings were attributable to the excess contribution. The formula exists precisely for situations where you can't directly trace which earnings came from which dollars.

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Has anyone successfully removed their excess HSA contributions? My provider is giving me a headache about it. They keep saying I need to fill out their special form, but then they're telling me they can't process it because the tax year has closed. I'm so confused!

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I just completed this process last month. Your HSA provider should allow you to withdraw excess contributions even for closed tax years - it's required by law. What you need to specifically request is a "return of excess contributions" - not a regular distribution. Make sure you're clear that this is to correct an excess contribution from a prior year. If they still give you trouble, ask to speak with a supervisor or their tax department specifically. I had to be persistent with mine but eventually got it sorted.

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Thanks for the tip! I called again and specifically asked for a "return of excess contributions" and mentioned it was required by law. Suddenly they knew exactly what I was talking about and sent me the correct form. They said I'll still need to file Form 5329 for the year of the excess contribution too.

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Quick question - does anyone know if the 6% excise tax on excess contributions continues to apply each year until you withdraw the excess? I just discovered I've had an excess HSA contribution sitting there for 2 years!

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Yes, unfortunately the 6% excise tax applies for each year the excess remains in your account. So if you had an excess contribution that's been sitting there for 2 years, you'd owe the 6% tax for both years. The good news is once you remove the excess contribution (plus earnings), the tax stops applying. You'll need to file Form 5329 for each tax year affected, but at least you can stop the bleeding by removing the excess now.

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I went through this exact same situation last year with a $2,000 HSA overcontribution that I kept in cash. The IRS guidance is actually pretty clear on this - you only need to calculate earnings on what the excess contribution actually earned, not use the complex formula when the funds were segregated. Since your $1,650 was sitting in cash at 0.01%, your earnings calculation is straightforward: $1,650 × 0.0001 = about $0.17 for the year (assuming it was there the full year). That's the amount you'd need to withdraw along with the $1,650 excess. The complex formula everyone mentions is only required when excess contributions are commingled with investments and you can't directly trace the specific earnings. Since you kept yours separate in cash, you're in the clear with the simple calculation. Make sure to request a "return of excess contributions" from your HSA provider (not a regular distribution) and complete Form 5329 to report any excise tax owed for the time the excess remained in your account. Better to fix it now than let that 6% annual excise tax keep accumulating!

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now. Just to clarify - when you say "return of excess contributions" versus a regular distribution, does this affect the tax treatment? I want to make sure I'm not accidentally creating a taxable event when I'm just trying to correct the overcontribution. Also, did you have any trouble getting your HSA provider to process the return? I've heard some people say their providers were confused about how to handle excess contribution returns for prior tax years.

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