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Hiroshi Nakamura

How to Report a Net Operating Loss (NOL) Carry Forward on Form 1040 for My S-Corp LLC

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a tough spot with my small marketing consulting LLC (S-Corp election) this year. My business ended up with a Net Operating Loss (NOL) for the tax year, which honestly wasn't what I was hoping for, but that's how things go sometimes. The issue is that my personal income this year is actually below the standard deduction threshold, so I can't even use the loss now. I want to carry this NOL forward on my Form 1040 to use in a future year when I'm (hopefully) making more money. I've been doing some research, but I'm still confused about a few things: 1. From what I understand, does the NOL amount go on line 21 of the 1040 form? 2. Can I claim my entire share of the NOL after distribution, or is there some maximum percentage I'm limited to? 3. I've seen references to showing/calculating the NOL amount on some kind of worksheet, but I can't find the specific IRS form number for this anywhere... Really appreciate any help from those who've dealt with this before. Tax season is always stressful, but this year is particularly confusing.

Hi there! I've worked with S-Corps and NOLs for years, so I can help clarify some things for you. For an S-Corporation, losses actually flow through to your personal return via Schedule K-1 (Form 1120-S), not directly on line 21 of Form 1040. These losses are then generally reported on Schedule E of your personal return. The NOL procedures have changed in recent years, so that's likely causing some confusion. For carrying forward NOLs, you'll need to complete Form 8582 to calculate any passive activity loss limitations first. Then, if you have an allowable loss that creates an NOL on your personal return, you'll need to complete Form 1045, Schedule A to calculate the actual NOL amount. While you don't file Form 1045 unless you're carrying the loss back, Schedule A of this form is still used to calculate the NOL. Remember that your ability to claim S-Corp losses is limited by your basis in the S-Corp, at-risk limitations, and passive activity rules. You'll need to track your basis carefully to ensure you can claim the losses.

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Thanks for the detailed info! I'm confused about one thing though - I thought the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act changed how NOLs work? Can S-Corp owners still carry losses forward indefinitely? And do we still use the same forms you mentioned for 2025 filing?

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You're absolutely right about the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act changing NOL rules. Under current rules, NOLs can be carried forward indefinitely (no more 20-year limit), but they're limited to offsetting only 80% of taxable income in any future year. These rules apply to NOLs generated after 2017. The forms I mentioned are still current for 2025 filing. Form 8582 handles passive activity loss limitations, and Form 1045 Schedule A is still used to calculate the NOL amount. Even though the form itself is used for carrybacks (which are now limited except for farming businesses), Schedule A remains the worksheet for calculating NOLs.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - be really careful with your basis calculations! I messed mine up last year and had my S-Corp NOL partially disallowed during an audit. Make sure you're tracking: 1. Initial capital contributions 2. Loans you made TO the company (increases basis) 3. Distributions (decreases basis) 4. Previous income or losses that flowed through The IRS was particularly interested in making sure I had documentation for loans to the business. They wanted to see actual promissory notes and bank statements showing the transfers.

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Do you need to adjust basis for things like depreciation separately? My S-Corp owns some equipment and I'm not sure if the depreciation deductions affect my basis calculations differently from other expenses.

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Depreciation itself doesn't require separate basis adjustments beyond how it already affects your ordinary business income or loss. The net income or loss from the business (which includes the effect of depreciation) flows through to your personal return and affects your stock basis. What's important is separating your "stock basis" from your "debt basis." Stock basis includes your initial capital contribution plus net income minus distributions. Debt basis only applies to direct loans you made to the S-Corp. You have to use debt basis first before affecting stock basis when claiming losses.

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Has anyone successfully e-filed their return with an NOL carryforward? Last year I had to paper file because TurboTax kept rejecting my return when I tried to include my S-Corp NOL. Wondering if any software handles this correctly for 2025 filing season?

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I've had good luck with TaxSlayer Professional for my S-Corp NOL carryforwards. Regular TurboTax doesn't handle it well but TurboTax Business might. The key is you need to complete the NOL worksheets separately and then just enter the final figures in the software.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I'll look into TaxSlayer Professional. You're right that having the worksheets prepared separately is probably the way to go. Was hoping to avoid paper filing again since refunds take so much longer that way.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago with my S-Corp consulting business. Here's what I learned that might help: For question 1 - No, the NOL doesn't go directly on line 21. Since you have an S-Corp, your losses flow through on Schedule K-1 and get reported on Schedule E of your 1040. The actual NOL calculation happens separately using Form 1045 Schedule A as a worksheet. For question 2 - You can claim your full share of the S-Corp loss, but it's limited by three things: your basis in the S-Corp stock, your at-risk amount, and passive activity rules (Form 8582). Make sure you have sufficient basis to absorb the loss - this includes your initial investment plus any loans you made TO the company. For question 3 - You're looking for Form 1045 Schedule A. Even though Form 1045 is technically for carrying losses back, Schedule A is the IRS worksheet used to calculate NOL amounts for carryforwards too. There's no separate "NOL worksheet" form number. One tip: Keep meticulous records of your basis calculations. The IRS doesn't provide a specific form for tracking S-Corp basis, so you'll need to maintain your own detailed worksheet showing contributions, distributions, prior income/losses, and any loans to the company. This becomes crucial if you ever get audited. Hope this helps! The NOL rules can be confusing but once you understand the flow-through nature of S-Corp losses, it becomes much clearer.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with S-Corp losses and the basis calculation aspect is what's been tripping me up the most. When you mention loans TO the company - does this include credit cards I used for business expenses that I haven't been reimbursed for yet? Or does it need to be formal loans with documentation? My basis might be higher than I thought if personal credit card advances count.

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