How to Fix Years of Missing Bookkeeping for an S-Corp?
I need some urgent help with a situation my sister is facing. Back in 2019, she worked with an accountant who helped her convert her business to an S-Corp. The problem is, they parted ways before setting up any proper bookkeeping or payroll systems. It's now 2024, and she's basically been operating without any formal bookkeeping for nearly 5 years! She has been making quarterly estimated tax payments during this time, so she wasn't completely ignoring her tax obligations. She recently met with a new accountant who was absolutely shocked at the situation but didn't really offer much guidance on how to fix it. I'm really concerned about what kind of trouble she might be in. If she's been making sufficient estimated tax payments all along, could she still face serious penalties? My limited understanding is that an S-Corp structure is mainly beneficial for tax purposes, so maybe she just missed out on potential tax advantages rather than actually doing something illegal? Has anyone dealt with catching up on years of missing S-Corp bookkeeping and payroll? What kind of professional should she hire to help fix this mess? Any advice would be hugely appreciated!
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Mason Lopez
This is actually a fairly common situation, believe it or not! Many small business owners convert to S-Corps for the tax advantages but don't realize the additional administrative requirements that come with it. The biggest issue here is that S-Corp owners are required to pay themselves a "reasonable salary" through payroll with proper withholding of income taxes, Social Security, and Medicare. The IRS is particularly interested in this because it prevents S-Corp owners from avoiding payroll taxes by taking income as distributions instead of salary. Your sister needs to address this ASAP by finding a CPA who specializes in S-Corp catch-up work. They'll need to: 1) Reconstruct bookkeeping records for those years 2) Determine what a reasonable salary should have been 3) File any missing payroll tax returns (Form 941s quarterly and Form 940 annually) 4) Prepare amended tax returns if necessary 5) Calculate and pay any penalties/interest The good news is that her estimated tax payments will help offset some of the tax liability, but she'll likely still owe some payroll taxes plus penalties and interest. The sooner she addresses this, the better - the IRS tends to be more lenient with voluntary disclosure than if they discover the issue in an audit.
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Vera Visnjic
•Thanks for this info. Would she need to go back and redo everything from 2019, or is there some kind of cutoff where the IRS won't care about older years? Also, any idea what kind of penalties we're talking about here? Are we talking hundreds or thousands of dollars?
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Mason Lopez
•For most tax issues, the IRS has a 3-year statute of limitations, but that clock only starts running when a return is actually filed. Since it sounds like proper payroll returns weren't filed, those years would still be open to examination. Regarding penalties, it really depends on the specifics of her situation - particularly how much income should have been classified as salary. Typically, you'd be looking at failure-to-file penalties (5% per month up to 25% of the tax due), failure-to-pay penalties (0.5% per month up to 25%), plus interest on the unpaid amounts. For payroll taxes specifically, there's also a trust fund recovery penalty that can be quite severe. Without knowing specifics, it's hard to estimate, but it could definitely run into thousands rather than hundreds.
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Jake Sinclair
I went through something kinda similar last year and stumbled across this service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that was super helpful for my situation. I had about 3 years of messy S-Corp records that needed to be cleaned up, and traditional bookkeepers were quoting me thousands just to get caught up. What I liked about taxr.ai is that it can actually analyze all your bank statements and automatically categorize everything to reconstruct your books for those missing years. I just uploaded my statements and their AI did most of the heavy lifting to recreate my bookkeeping history. Then their CPAs helped me figure out the reasonable salary issue and file the back payroll reports. Saved me a ton of time trying to manually reconstruct everything, and their specialists really understood S-Corp compliance issues. Definitely worth checking out for your sister's situation since it sounds almost identical to what I went through.
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Brielle Johnson
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How accurate was it at categorizing your expenses? I tried something similar before and it was always mixing up personal and business expenses which created more work.
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Honorah King
•How long did the whole process take? And did they help with filing the actual amended returns or just the bookkeeping part? My cousin's dealing with 2 years of messy LLC books (not even S-Corp which seems more complex) and we're trying to figure out the fastest way to clean it up.
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Jake Sinclair
•The accuracy was much better than I expected. It initially categorized about 80% correctly, and I just had to review and correct some transactions. You can also teach it your patterns so it gets smarter over time. It definitely knew the difference between most business and personal expenses based on the merchant names. For timeline, the initial bank statement processing took only about 48 hours, then I spent maybe 10 hours total reviewing and correcting over a couple of weeks. They handled both the bookkeeping reconstruction and coordinated with their CPAs for the amended returns and back payroll filings. Everything was wrapped up within about 6 weeks, which was way faster than the 3-4 months my local accountant quoted me.
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Honorah King
Just wanted to follow up - I ended up trying taxr.ai for my cousin's situation and it's been a game changer! I was skeptical since his books were such a disaster (2 years of mixed personal/business expenses and zero organization), but their system was surprisingly good at figuring out what was what. The best part was not having to manually enter 2+ years of transactions. We just uploaded bank statements and credit card statements, and it built most of the books automatically. Then we had a meeting with their accountant who helped us understand what needed fixing and how to handle the missed quarterly filings. They're still finishing up the amended returns, but the relief of having organized books again is huge. Definitely recommend for anyone in a similar situation who's dreading the manual catch-up work.
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Oliver Brown
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Mary Bates
•How does this actually work? Seems sketchy that some service could somehow get through the IRS phone system faster than I could myself.
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Clay blendedgen
•No way this works. I've tried calling the IRS dozens of times over the years and even their "practitioners priority line" for CPAs is useless. I find it hard to believe any service could magically get through when the IRS is answering like 10% of calls these days.
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Oliver Brown
•It's not that they get through faster - they just handle the waiting for you. You tell them which IRS department you need to reach, and their system calls repeatedly if needed and navigates through all the menus. Then when they finally reach a human, their system calls your phone and connects you directly. It absolutely works. The IRS actually does answer calls, but the problem is the hours of waiting and the getting disconnected part. They handled all that frustration for me. I was able to do other work while they were dealing with the hold times. When my phone rang, I picked up and was immediately talking to an IRS agent about my S-Corp issue.
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Clay blendedgen
I have to eat crow here and admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try it for my own tax situation (had issues with missing K-1s from an S-Corp investment). The service actually did exactly what they claimed. Their system called the IRS, navigated the menu hell, waited on hold for almost 2 hours (which I didn't have to sit through!), and then connected me once they got a human. The IRS agent was able to see the missing forms on their end and resolved my issue in about 15 minutes. Saved me from what would have been my fourth attempt at calling them directly, which always ended with me getting disconnected after 60+ minutes on hold. For anyone dealing with complex S-Corp issues that need direct IRS guidance, it's definitely worth it just for the saved time and frustration.
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Ayla Kumar
Just want to add something nobody's mentioned yet. Your sister should check ASAP if annual S-Corp tax returns (Form 1120-S) have been filed properly for all those years. If she's missed filing those returns, the S-Corp election could potentially be terminated, which creates an even bigger mess. Also, most states require annual reports or statements for corporations, sometimes with fees. If those weren't filed, there could be state-level penalties or even administrative dissolution of the corporation. The missing bookkeeping is definitely a problem, but the missed filings could be an even bigger issue with more immediate consequences.
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Demi Lagos
•Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about the state filings or the S-Corp election potentially being terminated. She's in California, which I know can be pretty aggressive with business compliance stuff. Would a business attorney be needed alongside an accountant at this point?
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Ayla Kumar
•California is actually one of the more challenging states for compliance - they have annual franchise tax minimums even for S-Corps with no profit. For California specifically, she'll need to check if the Statement of Information (Form SI-200) has been filed, and whether the $800 minimum franchise tax has been paid each year. At this point, I'd start with a good CPA who specializes in California S-Corps and business tax resolution. They can assess the situation first - a business attorney might be needed later, but accounting issues should be addressed first to understand the full scope of the problem. Most experienced CPAs will have relationships with business attorneys they can bring in if legal issues arise beyond tax compliance.
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Lorenzo McCormick
Something else to consider: How much income are we talking about here? If it's fairly minimal (like under $50k/year), the penalties might be manageable. But if your sister's business has substantial income, the missing "reasonable compensation" could mean significant unpaid payroll taxes. The IRS looks at the nature of the S-Corp's business to determine reasonable salary. If it's a service business where the owner is the primary service provider (like consulting, design, accounting, etc.), they typically expect a higher percentage of income as salary compared to businesses selling products.
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Carmella Popescu
•This is a really important point. My friend had a similar situation with her graphic design S-Corp and the IRS determined her reasonable salary should have been about 70% of the business profit since she was the only person doing the actual design work. The back payroll taxes and penalties were brutal.
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