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Marcus Patterson

How should I report income from selling timber on my farm property?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to wrap my head around the tax situation for some timber I just sold from my farm property. The logging company paid me around $67,000 for the mature pine stand on my back 40 acres. I'm completely lost on how to report this on my taxes. Does anyone know what specific form I need to use? And I'm confused about whether this gets taxed as capital gains or as regular income? The difference in tax rates seems pretty significant. Any help from someone who's dealt with timber sales before would be super appreciated!

Lydia Bailey

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Timber sales can actually be reported in several different ways depending on your specific situation. The most beneficial approach for most farm owners is to treat it as a capital gain under IRC Section 1231, which generally means lower tax rates than ordinary income. You'll want to report this on Form 8949 and Schedule D if treating as a capital gain. If you've owned the property for more than a year (which it sounds like you have), you'd qualify for long-term capital gains rates which are significantly lower than ordinary income rates. However, if you're actively in the timber business rather than just selling occasionally from your farm, it might need to be reported as ordinary income on Schedule C. The key question is whether this was a "lump-sum" sale where you sold the standing timber for a fixed amount, or if you maintained an economic interest in the cutting (pay-as-cut). The approach differs based on this distinction.

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Thanks for the detailed response. This was definitely a lump-sum sale - the timber company paid me one payment for all the standing trees. I've owned the farm for about 9 years, so definitely over the 1-year mark. I'm not in the timber business at all - this is the first time I've harvested any trees from the property. Would I need to subtract my "basis" in the timber from the sale price? And if so, how do I figure out what that basis would be since I bought the whole property (land and trees) together?

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Lydia Bailey

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Yes, you'll need to determine your basis in the timber to calculate your gain correctly. Since you purchased the land with the timber on it, you'll need to allocate a portion of your original purchase price to the timber value. The ideal approach would be to look back at your records from when you purchased the property. Sometimes the purchase documents include a timber cruise or appraisal that allocated value. If you don't have that, you might need to work with a forestry consultant who can help you establish a reasonable basis through a method called "depletion". They can estimate what the timber was worth when you purchased the property. For reporting, since this was a lump-sum sale and you've held the property for 9 years, you'll report it as a long-term capital gain on Form 8949 and Schedule D. The difference between your allocated basis and the $67,000 sale price will be your capital gain. This approach should result in the most favorable tax treatment.

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Mateo Warren

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Sofia Price

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Does it work if I've never tracked my basis in the timber before? I inherited some forest land about 5 years ago and have no idea what the timber was worth at the time I received it.

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Alice Coleman

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I'm skeptical about these online tools for specialized tax situations. How does it actually establish basis for timber when you've owned the land for years? That seems like it would require professional forestry knowledge, not just tax algorithms.

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Mateo Warren

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It actually handles inherited property situations really well. The system asks you when you inherited the land and uses historical timber price data for your region to help establish a reasonable basis. It's pretty sophisticated with natural resource depletion calculations. For establishing basis on property owned for years, it uses something called "retroactive basis determination" where it can work with either your original purchase documents or, if you don't have those, it can use historical regional timber prices and growth models based on the species and age of your trees. They partner with forestry databases to make these calculations legitimate. I was impressed because it handled all the technical aspects without me needing to become a forestry expert.

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I need to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself when I couldn't get through to the IRS about my timber sale question. The service actually worked exactly as described. They called me when they got an agent on the line, and I was able to speak directly with an IRS specialist who was surprisingly knowledgeable about timber taxation. The agent walked me through Form T (Timber), which I didn't even know existed, and explained how to properly report my basis allocation. They confirmed that occasional timber sales from property held for investment should be treated as capital gains, not ordinary income. Saved me a lot in taxes and gave me confidence my return is correct. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong about something!

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Kolton Murphy

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Don't forget about Form T (Forest Activities Schedule)! While it's not always required for casual timber sales, it provides documentation that can be super helpful if you ever get audited. It lets you record your basis and depletion calculations properly. Also, depending on your state, there might be state-specific timber tax programs you can take advantage of. In my state, we have a special timber severance tax that actually reduces the overall property tax burden after a harvest.

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I hadn't heard about Form T! Is that something everyone has to file with a timber sale, or only people who are regularly in the timber business? And do you know if using that form changes how the income is taxed?

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Kolton Murphy

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Form T is technically only required if you're regularly in the timber business or claiming a timber depletion deduction. For a one-time sale like yours, it's optional - but I always recommend completing it anyway as supporting documentation. Using Form T doesn't change how the income is taxed - it's more of a detailed record-keeping form that substantiates your basis calculations and depletion deductions. It provides a paper trail showing how you determined your timber basis, which is extremely helpful if you're ever questioned about it. Since determining timber basis can be somewhat subjective when you bought the land with timber already on it, having this documentation shows you made a good-faith effort to calculate everything properly.

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Evelyn Rivera

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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting timber sales? I'm wondering if the standard software can handle this or if I need something more specialized?

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Julia Hall

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I tried using TurboTax for my timber sale last year and it was a nightmare. The program doesn't have specific guidance for timber sales and kept trying to categorize everything as either business income or simple capital gains without the proper 1231 treatment. I ended up having to override several calculations manually.

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I dealt with a similar timber sale situation on my family's property a few years back. One thing I learned that wasn't mentioned yet - make sure to keep detailed records of any costs associated with the timber sale (road maintenance, marking trees, etc.) because these can be deducted from your gross proceeds when calculating your gain. Also, if you haven't already, consider getting a professional timber cruise done to establish current fair market value documentation. Even though your sale is complete, having this baseline can be helpful for future tax planning if you have more timber on the property. Some forestry consultants will do a retroactive valuation that can help support your basis calculations. The capital gains treatment really does make a huge difference - in my case it saved me about $8,000 compared to ordinary income rates. Just make sure you document everything well since timber sales sometimes get extra scrutiny during audits.

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Yuki Tanaka

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That's really valuable advice about documenting the sale-related costs! I hadn't thought about things like road maintenance being deductible. Do you know if there's a specific form or schedule where those costs should be reported, or do they just reduce the gross proceeds when calculating the gain on Form 8949? Also, regarding the professional timber cruise for retroactive valuation - roughly what did that cost you? I'm trying to weigh whether it's worth the expense for establishing a solid basis, especially since I'm dealing with a $67,000 sale.

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