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How many years should I file for back taxes to avoid IRS issues?

Hey everyone! So I'm in a bit of a tax situation and could use some advice. I haven't filed my taxes from 2018 up until recently when I finally submitted 2021, 2022, and 2023. The tax guy I used seemed confused when I asked about filing those older years (2018-2020). He basically said he could do it but looked at me weird when I mentioned it, like "why would you bother" since I probably won't get any refunds. I've always thought there would be some kind of penalty or problem if I didn't eventually file those missing years. The main reason I'm getting everything sorted is I'm starting college next September and wanted to make sure I qualify for financial aid through FAFSA. But when I was checking out the FAFSA site, I didn't see much about needing to have all your past taxes filed. So my question is - should I go ahead and file those back taxes from 2018-2020 even though I probably won't get money back? Or is it fine to just leave it and move forward with the last three years I just filed? Really appreciate any help!

Ayla Kumar

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You should absolutely file those back years, even if you won't get a refund. Here's why: The IRS generally has a 3-year window for you to claim refunds, but they have up to 6 years to audit you (and potentially unlimited time if they suspect fraud or if you never filed). While the 2018 tax year refund window has closed, there are still good reasons to file. For FAFSA purposes, they typically only look at the most recent tax year information, which is probably why you didn't see much about back taxes on their site. However, having unfiled tax returns can trigger other issues: 1. If you ever owed taxes for those years, penalties and interest continue to accrue 2. Unfiled tax returns can complicate mortgage applications, loan approvals, and other financial matters 3. The IRS can eventually file a substitute return for you (which rarely works in your favor) 4. It gives you peace of mind and closure on your tax obligations Your tax preparer probably meant that since the refund window has closed for 2018-2019, there's no financial incentive for you. But compliance with tax law isn't just about getting refunds.

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Do they really go back 6 years for audits? I thought it was 3? And what about the whole substitute return thing - I've heard about that but don't know exactly what it means. Is it something to worry about?

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Ayla Kumar

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The standard IRS audit window is indeed 3 years, but it extends to 6 years if they identify a substantial underreporting of income (generally if you omitted more than 25% of your gross income). In cases where returns were never filed or where fraud is suspected, there's technically no statute of limitations. A substitute return is when the IRS creates a tax return for you based on information they have (like your W-2s and 1099s). They don't include credits or deductions you might qualify for, so you typically end up owing more than if you had filed yourself. They'll send you a notice of deficiency, and you'll have limited time to respond before the assessment becomes final - at which point they can begin collection actions like liens or levies.

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Kai Santiago

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Lim Wong

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Dananyl Lear

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How exactly does this work? Like, do they just call for you or something? I'm confused about how any service could get through the IRS phone lines when I've been trying for days.

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Ana Rusula

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Yeah right. The IRS phone system is deliberately designed to be impenetrable. I seriously doubt any service can magically get you through when millions of people can't get through. Sounds like a scam to me.

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Dananyl Lear

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Ana Rusula

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Well, I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway since I was desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my unfiled 2018 return. Got connected to an agent in about 20 minutes (which is honestly miraculous compared to my previous attempts). The agent confirmed that even though I couldn't get a refund for 2018 anymore, I still needed to file because I had 1099 income that year. They explained that the IRS computer system had already flagged my account for unfiled returns, and it was just a matter of time before they'd send me a formal notice. By filing voluntarily before that happens, I avoid some of the more aggressive collection procedures. So to the original poster - yes, file those back years! The IRS definitely knows you haven't filed, and it's better to address it proactively.

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Fidel Carson

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you had very low income during those unfiled years, you might not have been required to file at all. The filing thresholds change yearly, but for example, a single person under 65 in 2018 only needed to file if they made more than $12,000. If you were a dependent during any of those years (like if your parents claimed you), the threshold is even lower. Just something to consider before paying someone to prepare returns that might not be legally required.

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Thanks for bringing this up! During those years I was making around $25-28k annually as an independent contractor, so I'm pretty sure I needed to file. I didn't have any taxes withheld since I was getting 1099s, not W-2s. Does that change anything about whether I should file those back years?

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Fidel Carson

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Oh, with 1099 income of $25-28k per year, you absolutely need to file those back years! The self-employment filing threshold is much lower - you're required to file if you have net self-employment income of $400 or more. More concerning is that you likely owe self-employment tax (15.3% for Social Security and Medicare) plus regular income tax on that money. With no withholding, you could be facing a significant tax bill for each unfiled year, and the penalties and interest have been accumulating. I'd strongly recommend getting those filed ASAP, as the IRS is much more likely to work with you on payment arrangements if you come forward voluntarily rather than waiting for them to find you.

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Has anyone mentioned the Failure to File penalty yet? It's 5% of unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. If you're more than 60 days late, minimum penalty is either $435 (for returns due after 1/1/2020) or 100% of the tax owed, whichever is less. Since you mentioned 1099 income in your reply, you definitely have unpaid taxes, which means these penalties are already applied to your account in the IRS system. The sooner you file, the sooner you can work on resolving this!

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Xan Dae

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There's also the Failure to Pay penalty which is 0.5% of unpaid taxes per month, up to 25%. And don't forget the interest that compounds daily on both the unpaid tax and penalties! I learned this the hard way...

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