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Gabriel Ruiz

How many years should I file for back taxes - consequences for unfiled tax years?

Hey everyone! So I've got a situation that's been stressing me out lately. I haven't filed my taxes from 2017 through 2020, but I just recently got my act together and filed for 2021, 2022, and 2023 with a tax preparer. When I asked about filing those older years, he seemed kinda confused about why I'd even want to do that since I probably wouldn't get any refunds from them. Now I'm wondering if I'm missing something important here? I always thought there would be some kind of penalty or trouble if I didn't eventually file those past years. The main reason I started catching up was because I'm starting school next January and wanted to make sure I'd be eligible for FAFSA. But after looking through their website today, I didn't see much mention about needing to have all your past taxes filed. Should I go ahead and spend the money to file those older tax years from 2017-2020? Or can I just leave it alone since I'm current for the last three years? I don't want this coming back to bite me later, especially if it might affect my financial aid!

The IRS generally requires you to file returns for the past 6 years to be considered compliant, but there are some important considerations here. If you were legally required to file for those years (based on your income meeting the filing threshold) but didn't, there's no statute of limitations on unfiled returns. This means the IRS could theoretically come after you at any time. However, in practice, they typically focus on the last 6 years. For FAFSA purposes, they generally only look at the most recent tax year information. So having 2023 filed should be sufficient for your January school start. But there are good reasons to consider filing those back years: 1. Peace of mind knowing you're fully compliant 2. Starting the 3-year refund statute of limitations (if you are owed money) 3. Starting the 10-year collection statute of limitations (if you owe money) 4. Avoiding potential issues if you're ever audited for other years If you were due refunds for those years, you can only claim them within 3 years of the original due date, so 2020 might still be claimable, but earlier years' refunds would be forfeited.

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Peyton Clarke

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This is really helpful, but I'm confused about one thing - if they were required to file but didn't, and they actually OWED taxes for those years, can the IRS still come after them for that money plus penalties? Or is there some cutoff?

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If you owed taxes and didn't file, the IRS can indeed pursue collection of those taxes plus penalties and interest with no time limit until you actually file the returns. Once filed, the 10-year collection statute generally begins. For unfiled returns where you owe money, the IRS can assess failure-to-file penalties (5% of unpaid taxes each month, up to 25%) and failure-to-pay penalties (0.5% per month, up to 25%), plus interest that compounds daily. These can add up significantly over time, which is why filing is important even if you can't pay immediately.

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Vince Eh

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I went through something similar and used https://taxr.ai to help me figure out which years I actually needed to file. They analyzed my situation and helped me understand that I only needed to file for certain years based on my income levels. Saved me from unnecessarily filing for years where I was under the threshold and wouldn't owe anything. Their document analyzer was super helpful when I was trying to piece together my income history from old W-2s and 1099s that I had scattered around. It organized everything by year and showed me exactly which years needed attention.

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Did you have to upload all your tax documents? I'm worried about security since I lost some of my W-2s from those years and would need to get transcripts from the IRS first.

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How accurate was it for figuring out if you'd owe penalties? I'm in a similar situation but scared to find out I might owe thousands in penalties for years I didn't file.

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Vince Eh

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You only need to upload what you have - they actually helped me figure out how to get my missing documents by guiding me through requesting wage transcripts from the IRS. For penalties, they were pretty accurate. They estimated what I'd owe based on my situation, and when I finally filed, it was within about $75 of their estimate. They take into account things like whether you're owed a refund (which usually means no penalties) or if you owe taxes (which triggers the penalties). The key is that knowing the potential damage ahead of time helped me prepare instead of getting a surprise bill.

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Just wanted to update that I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here. I was really nervous about my unfiled taxes from 2018-2020, but they analyzed my situation and showed me that for 2018 and 2019, I was actually under the filing threshold based on my income type! Only needed to file 2020, which saved me a ton of money on tax prep fees. The best part was they showed me exactly which documents I needed to gather for the one year I did need to file, and their estimate of what I'd owe was spot on. My tax preparer was impressed with how organized I was when I went in. Definitely worth checking out if you're in a similar situation with unfiled back taxes.

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Ezra Beard

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After spending WEEKS trying to get through to the IRS about my unfiled tax years, I finally used https://claimyr.com to get connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was honestly shocked because I'd been calling for days and kept getting the "high call volume" message and disconnects. The IRS agent I spoke with explained exactly which years I needed to file based on my situation and whether I'd face penalties. Turns out I only needed to worry about the last 3 years for my specific situation.

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Ezra Beard

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Ok I need to eat my words. After posting my skeptical comment, I was still desperate to talk to the IRS about my unfiled 2019 taxes, so I tried Claimyr. Within 17 minutes I was actually talking to an IRS representative who pulled up my file and confirmed I should definitely file my 2019 return because they had income reported to them that exceeded the filing threshold. The agent explained that even though I can't get a refund for 2019 anymore (3-year limit passed), filing would stop any potential automated collections process from starting. They also told me exactly what forms I needed based on the income they had on file for me. Totally worth it for the peace of mind knowing exactly where I stand with the IRS instead of wondering and worrying.

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Aria Khan

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One thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - if you're planning to apply for any major loans (mortgage, etc) in the next few years, lenders will often request tax transcripts. If you have unfiled years, it can delay or even prevent loan approval. I learned this the hard way when trying to buy a house and had to rush-file 2 back years. My loan officer said it's one of the most common issues they see with otherwise qualified borrowers.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Thanks for bringing this up! I hadn't even thought about how this might affect future loans. Do you know if mortgage lenders typically look back a certain number of years? Like would they care about 2017-2019 if I have 2020-2023 all filed properly?

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Aria Khan

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They typically look at the last 2-3 years for income verification purposes, so having 2021-2023 filed should cover most lenders' requirements. However, when they pull your tax transcripts, unfiled years can sometimes trigger additional questions or scrutiny. It varies by lender - some might not care about older unfiled years if the recent ones are filed, while others might want a letter of explanation. If your 2017-2019 income was significantly different than your current income, that could potentially raise more questions.

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Everett Tutum

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Just chiming in to add my experience as someone who didn't file for 5 years (2016-2020) and finally caught up last year. The biggest surprise was that I was actually OWED money for 3 of those 5 years because I had too much withheld from my paychecks! Unfortunately I could only get refunds for 2020 since the others were outside the 3-year window, but I was relieved there were no penalties since I was due refunds. The peace of mind from being caught up is worth it even though I lost out on some refund money. Whether you should file really depends on if you had taxes withheld that were more than what you would have owed. If you were a W-2 employee with normal withholding, there's a decent chance you're owed money rather than owing the IRS.

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Sunny Wang

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This is so important! Most people assume they'll owe if they didn't file, but often W-2 employees have too much withheld and are actually due refunds. The IRS doesn't penalize you if they owe YOU money!

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FireflyDreams

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Gabriel, I can definitely understand your stress about this! From what you've shared, you're actually in a pretty good position since you've gotten current with 2021-2023. Here's my take on your specific situation: Since you're primarily concerned about FAFSA eligibility for January, you should be fine. FAFSA typically uses the "prior-prior year" tax information, so for starting school in January 2025, they'll likely want your 2023 return (which you have filed). However, I'd still lean toward filing those back years (2017-2020) for a few reasons: 1. You mentioned wanting peace of mind - unfiled returns can create anxiety that lingers 2. If you were a W-2 employee during those years, there's a decent chance you're owed refunds (especially for 2020, which you might still be able to claim) 3. It eliminates any future complications if you need tax transcripts for loans, employment background checks, or other purposes Before spending money on a tax preparer though, I'd suggest trying to figure out if you were even required to file for those years. If your income was below the filing threshold for any of those years, you wouldn't need to file at all. You can check the IRS website for historical filing thresholds by year. The fact that your current tax preparer seemed confused suggests he might not specialize in back tax situations - you might want to consult with someone who has more experience with unfiled returns to get a clearer picture of your obligations and potential refunds.

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