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Jessica Nguyen

How long before IRS starts collection process after payment plan ends?

I'm currently on a short term payment plan with the IRS that runs until next March to pay off my tax debt. The thing is, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to fully pay it off by then. I'm thinking I'll probably need to set up a partial payment installment agreement (PPIA) when March rolls around. But honestly, I'm wondering if I even need to bother with the PPIA paperwork and hassle. Could I just ignore setting up the PPIA and continue throwing whatever money I can at the tax debt until it's eventually paid off? I'm curious how long the IRS would wait before they start getting serious about collections. Would they immediately come after me when the short-term plan expires, or is there some grace period? Just trying to understand what timeline I'm working with here and avoid any unnecessary headaches.

The IRS typically doesn't immediately jump to aggressive collection actions when a payment plan expires, but you definitely don't want to just let it lapse without communication. When your short-term payment plan ends in March, the IRS will expect either full payment or a new arrangement in place. If you simply stop paying without setting up a PPIA, you'll likely receive a series of notices over 2-3 months. After those initial notices, the IRS can then move to more serious collection efforts like tax liens or even levies on your bank accounts or wages. These usually don't happen instantly, but they can move surprisingly quickly once you're on their radar as non-compliant. The safer approach is to be proactive and apply for the PPIA before your current plan expires. This keeps you in "compliance" status with the IRS and prevents the collection process from starting in the first place.

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Ruby Garcia

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Would the IRS send warnings before they start taking money from accounts? And is a PPIA hard to get approved for compared to the short-term plan?

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Yes, the IRS does send notices before levying accounts or wages. You'll typically receive several notices demanding payment, with each one becoming more serious in tone. The final notice is a "Notice of Intent to Levy" which gives you 30 days to respond before they can take action. A PPIA is definitely more involved than a short-term plan. You'll need to complete Form 433-A or 433-F detailing your financial situation, including income, expenses, assets, and liabilities. The IRS will determine a monthly payment amount based on your ability to pay. They'll also review your financial information every two years to see if your payment amount should increase.

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Does this actually work with complicated tax situations? I've got back taxes from self-employment income and I'm worried about the IRS coming after my business accounts.

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I'm skeptical about these online tools. How does it know the actual IRS timelines for collections? Sounds like they're just guessing based on general information anyone could look up.

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Yes, it definitely works with self-employment situations. I was actually in that exact scenario with Schedule C income from my consulting business. The tool specifically addresses self-employment tax issues and helps identify which business expenses might help your case for a lower payment amount on a PPIA. The collection timelines aren't guesses - they're based on the actual Internal Revenue Manual that IRS agents follow. The system explains exactly which section of the IRM applies to your specific situation and what discretion collection agents have in your case. It was much more specific than the general advice I found on tax websites.

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I need to eat my words about being skeptical! I decided to try https://taxr.ai after my short-term agreement expired last month, and it was actually incredibly helpful. The system flagged that I qualified for Currently Not Collectible status due to my medical expenses, which I had no idea about. When I called the IRS to discuss my expired payment plan, I was prepared with exactly the right financial documentation they needed. The representative even seemed impressed that I knew precisely what to reference. Got my account placed in CNC status which gives me breathing room to improve my finances before having to make payments. Definitely saved me from just letting my plan expire and hoping for the best, which would have eventually led to collections. Now I understand exactly what triggers the different collection actions and how to properly communicate with the IRS.

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Maya Lewis

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Isaac Wright

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Wait, how does this work? Do they have some special line to the IRS or something? I've been calling for weeks trying to set up a payment plan.

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Lucy Taylor

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Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS faster. This sounds like a scam to me. I'll stick with waiting on hold for 3 hours like everyone else.

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Maya Lewis

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They use a technology that continuously redials the IRS until it gets through, then it calls you and connects you directly to the IRS agent. It's not a special line - they're just automating the frustrating redial process that most of us give up on after a few tries. I was definitely skeptical too. I had already spent about 8 hours across 3 days trying to get through on my own. But I was getting desperate because my plan was about to expire. When I got the call back and heard the actual IRS hold music, then an official IRS agent, I was shocked it actually worked.

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Lucy Taylor

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I need to publicly admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After my snarky comment, my anxiety about my tax situation got the better of me and I decided to try it anyway. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes, and they explained that since my short-term plan had already expired two weeks ago, I was already in the early stages of their collection process. The agent told me I had about 30 more days before things would escalate to the point where they might file a tax lien. We set up a PPIA right there on the phone, and they even backdated it so it looked like there was no gap in coverage between my plans. Saved me from having a tax lien on my credit report and potentially having my accounts levied. Still can't believe I got through to someone that quickly after weeks of trying on my own.

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Connor Murphy

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - if you don't set up a new agreement when your short-term plan expires, the IRS can also offset (take) any future tax refunds until your debt is paid. They do this automatically without having to go through the normal collection process. This happened to me for three years straight before I finally set up a proper installment agreement.

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Thanks for mentioning this! Is there any way to protect future refunds once you're in a formal agreement like the PPIA?

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Connor Murphy

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Even with a PPIA in place, the IRS will still offset any tax refunds. That's standard for any type of installment agreement. The only way to protect future refunds is to adjust your withholding so you don't have a refund coming - basically aim to break even or owe a tiny amount each year. This actually works in your favor in two ways: you get more money in each paycheck throughout the year (instead of giving the IRS an interest-free loan), and you can use that extra money to make payments on your tax debt, which does reduce interest charges.

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KhalilStar

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Just want to add that ignoring the end of your payment plan is risky for another reason - the IRS charges both penalties AND interest on unpaid tax debt. The failure-to-pay penalty is 0.5% per month (up to 25% total), and the interest rate is currently around 7%. Those keep accumulating even if they haven't started active collections yet.

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Does getting on a PPIA stop these penalties from adding up? My tax debt keeps growing despite making payments.

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GalaxyGlider

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Yes, being on a PPIA does reduce the failure-to-pay penalty rate from 0.5% per month down to 0.25% per month, which helps slow down how fast your balance grows. However, the interest will continue to accrue at the full rate on your unpaid balance. The key is that as long as you're making your required PPIA payments on time, you're considered "in compliance" with the IRS, which prevents them from taking collection actions and keeps the penalty rate lower. But unfortunately, there's no way to completely stop interest from accumulating until the debt is fully paid off. @AmieliaDietrich If your debt is still growing despite payments, it might be worth requesting a review of your payment amount through the PPIA process to see if you can qualify for higher monthly payments that actually make progress against the principal balance.

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